• tygerprints@kbin.social
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    11 months ago

    Everyone I know has some kind of medical debt. Even my doctor said he ignores his medical bills, who doesn’t. What can you do, when you need medical help and insurance won’t pay for it. Personally I feel that if someone is chronically ill with a debilitating illness, the most humane thing we can do is allow them the choice of assisted suicide.

    I think we should do the “Soylent Green” thing. Remember that movie? When someone is too sick, old, or just tired of life, they have the choice of going into a state-run facility where they go into a bed and slowly assisted into death - and their body is used to make more food for other people. I mean, why not - protein is protein and why not solve hunger and pain at the same time.

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      11 months ago

      Personally I feel that if someone is chronically ill with a debilitating illness, the most humane thing we can do is allow them the choice of assisted suicide.

      I think the most humane thing to do would be to treat them with the best care we as a society can provide without forcing them into massive debt.

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        Well sure, if you want to be all humane and LOGICAL about it. (rolls eyes). That would be the best option if it is available - but I’ve seen many patients forced to endure horrible protracted processes of dying without the means to afford any better outcome (and there are some who even the best treatments just can’t help).

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            11 months ago

            Tax them first, proportional to gross income.

            (You know, like America in the '40s . Do they know that’s one of the few Greats America was, and thus one of the few things they can Make it Again?)

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            11 months ago

            Yes but there’s so much fat to trim away. I think we should give all people a chance to be “at the table.” I mean what’s wrong with human meat? Ounce per ounce it’s more nutritious than the same amount of chicken or beef. Ask the survivors of the Andes’ plane wreck.

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              11 months ago

              We’d have to cook it to the texture of shoe-leather, to make sure to kill whatever yuck that might be in them.

              That said, something isn’t right with my body; I’m not tolerating meat well, lately. Considering vegan but not sure how to get plenty of protein, and I do love dairy, which is still less expensive than almond/oat milk (which I like well enough).

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                  11 months ago

                  Then we pollute the air more. I’m pretty sure there is zero use for billionaires and multimillionaires. Deprogramming and re-education, probably by putting them in crap pay service industry positions, slum dwellings and taking away their toys, including internet and television, and probably telephones that dial more than emergency services.

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    11 months ago

    Hey I just a had a thought. We should have a vote on student loan debt. If you vote against a blanket clearing of the debt you automatically go on a list of people who can’t declare bankruptcy due to medical debt.

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      11 months ago

      Sorry, but taxpayers shouldn’t be bailing out your poor financial decisions. You took out the loans, you can pay them back.

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    11 months ago

    At times I wonder if medically assisted suicides are frowned upon due to not being able to further drain the money out of patients and their extended credit lines.

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      11 months ago

      You don’t have to wonder any longer. You’ve figured it out. Take the morality out of many political decisions and you have the right answer. Abortions? – nobody gives a shit about those children. It’s a convenient cover so they don’t have to say “Mothers are killing the thing that we will enslave and drain later on in the economy!” Everyone says that they care about the child until it’s born – they don’t even care before that point. And the lack of care/suffering/poverty of the child afterwards is the point of exploitation. So the system is working as intended. They need more workers, they need to siphon every ounce of production out of those workers.

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        Abortions? – nobody gives a shit about those children. It’s a convenient cover so they don’t have to say “Mothers are killing the thing that we will enslave and drain later on in the economy!"

        What sort of purpose does it serve to force a woman to carry a pregnancy to term when the fetus has a Fatal fetal abnormality?

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          What sort of purpose does it serve to force a woman to carry a pregnancy

          One sterile woman is a good exchange for 10 babies born in poverty who will join the Army.

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            The policy creates orphans more than it creates a population boom. And eventually people do find ways to prevent/stop pregnancies they’re just more dangerous and you see small bump in births then they go down as women die. With more women dying on their 3rd or 4th child then you get more kids who are ophaned.

            The strategic problem is nobody wants orphans so what happens? They get abused or fend for themselves and become unstable. Ain’t many of them going to join the army.

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    11 months ago

    “getting sick” and “getting hospitalized” are two wildly different things. I got sick last week and it cost me nothing (well, a few $$$ for some ice cream).

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    11 months ago

    Better to have expensive service that is actually available when you need it. Socialized medicine means you’ll be waiting MONTHS for an appointment. Or they’ll just tell you to kill yourself. No joke.