Israeli officials obtained Hamas’s battle plan for the Oct. 7 terrorist attack more than a year before it happened, documents, emails and interviews show. But Israeli military and intelligence officials dismissed the plan as aspirational, considering it too difficult for Hamas to carry out.

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  • Meowoem@sh.itjust.works
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    10 months ago

    What were they supposed to do with the knowledge Hamas has lots of plans to attack them? Build a wall with a highly advanced defensive systems to try and stop them? Oh, right…

    If I told you a year ago that I plan to punch you in the face then is it your fault when I do it?

    Hamas loudly say they plan to kill all Jewish people in Israel, when Israel takes measures to prevent that everyone says they’re the bad guy - now people are blaming them for not taking enough measures? It makes only one sense, that is if you assume the people saying it don’t care about anything beside hating Israel.

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      10 months ago

      Uh… they acquired detailed plans about this attack that they just declared impossible then they received info from veteran intelligence officers that Hamas was actively preparing for the attack they said was impossible. After receiving those warnings, and also the previously disclosed warnings from Egypt, they left the area the plan said was the point of attack completely undefended. There doesn’t seem to have been any contingency plan in place to deal with this if this if it turned out to be true. It doesn’t seem unfair to say that this was an enormous intelligence and security failure.

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        10 months ago

        They only have limited resources and were using those to defend areas where Hamas were actively attacking. If they’d put all their troops to defend mostly empty desert then the weakspot would have been somewhere else and they’d have targeted their attack at that weakspot instead.

        War isn’t easy, certainly not against well funded terrorist organisations. I’m sure the IDF knew of hundreds of potential attacks and plans that Hamas wanted to carry out, knowing what they’ll actually do and when is an impossible feat - I bet they’re weren’t many in Hamas itself that had any idea what was going to happen, even Iran who trains and funds them appeared surprised.

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    10 months ago

    I doubt it. More likely they would rather portray themselves as careless than ignorant.

    If they’re just careless then the settler-colonial occupation is still viable, they just need to be more attentive and serious.

    If they’re ignorant, however, the whole thing was always impossible and it always will be.

    They would rather be thought of as incompetent than discredit the project itself. Incompetent people can be replaced. Zionism can’t.

    EDIT Think about this! Zionists don’t want the world to know that they were outsmarted or outmatched. They’d rather portray themselves as allowing the attack to happen through carelessness or maliciousness because they can not allow their invincibility to be questioned.

    The truth is, their project has always been doomed. No amount of surveillance and brutality and security can ever contain a people forever. The colonized either need to be exterminated or they will always find ways to resist.

    They want to deminish Hamas’s accomplishment. That’s it.

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      10 months ago

      They’d rather portray themselves as allowing the attack to happen through carelessness or maliciousness because they can not allow their invincibility to be questioned.

      I feel like their invincibility is questioned every time Hamas fires a rocket in their direction.
      It usually takes more effort to defend something than to attack.

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        10 months ago

        Their invincibility is affirmed every time the Iron Dome repells a rocket attack. They get to trumpet their invincibility and sell their image as godlike and untouchable.

        The incursion ruined that image and made Israel look weak. That’s why Israel is responding with genocide.