• reddig33@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    The Verge has such a hard on for this story. They’ve published like ten articles about it already.

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      8 months ago

      To be fair, it’s the most interesting story the verge has covered in about, well, as long as the verge has existed.

      This is a big deal - it’s going to shape the entire tech industry for the foreseeable future. And it’s going to drag on in court and probably also congress for years and years.

      Apple is the target of the lawsuit but the DoJ is also telling every other tech company what rules they need to operate under. The last decade of “just do whatever you want” is over.

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      8 months ago

      Because we all do, because someone is finally trying to do something about Apple’s decades long walled garden anti-competitive bullshit.

      What, are you upset that your favourite trillion dollar mega corp feels picked on?

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        8 months ago

        I’m upset when the government wastes resources on a big lawsuit that it’s absolutely going to lose, because it’s weak on the law and inept on the not-that-complicated technological issues. I also question the leadership of an organization that, in the name of consumer protection, decides to target a product with ludicrously high customer satisfaction ratings. Consumers love their iPhones, perhaps more so than literally any other product they own. What a monumentally stupid target.

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          8 months ago

          “I like my iPhone so any criticism of Apple has to be unjustified”

          Your reasoning is weak, do better.

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          8 months ago

          You do realize that you can like iPhones and Apple products while recognizing that a lot of Apple’s business practices seriously hurt consumers, right?

          I also don’t think they’ll lose. They have a ton of evidence of intentionally anti-competitive behavior from Apple.

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          8 months ago

          Heroin has a pretty high user satisfaction rating too. You can’t use customer satisfaction as a metric for legality.

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          8 months ago

          Yikes. You don’t have to defend Apple in public my man, they have lawyers for that.

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    8 months ago

    Edit: an upstream comment led me to be able to find this article which does a way better job of explaining the DOJ complaints:

    https://www.theverge.com/2024/3/21/24107669/doj-v-apple-apple-watch-messaging-digital-wallets-lock-in

    Honestly, I would be happy if Apple addressed all of these things as long as doing so has absolutely zero chance of degrading my experience as their customer.

    My original comment:

    Apple already announced that it’ll be supporting RCS sometime this year. Cloud streaming games have been available on iOS for years now, but prior they had to be a Web App and as of earlier this year that is no longer the case. Now they can be a regular app in the app store.

    Superapps are hot garbage and should be banned. But WeChat exists on iPhone so I am honestly confused about this one. What features is it not allowed to have?

    The NFC and wallet issue is a thing still.

    The watch thing is a head scratcher. What API does Apple Watch currently use which 3rd party watches don’t have access to? Because it seems like Apple is being blamed for other companies not making better products.

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    8 months ago

    Imagine you’re a government lawyer working on the US case and you show up to a deposition and pull your iPhone out set it on the table.

    What are the chances that your Apple ID and iCloud are mysteriously banned for violations of the terms of service for which Apple can’t share the specific reason because of “policy related security reasons” before the week is out?

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      8 months ago

      That’s called “ retaliation” and Apple would have to be pretty fucking stupid to do that to the prosecutors at any point, let alone in the middle of a dep.

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        8 months ago

        Apple would have to pretty fucking stupid to openly retaliate against Epic for criticizing their DMA plan but here we are.

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          8 months ago

          Commiting felonies to antagonize a DOJ lawyer personally would be a whole different level of stupid.

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            8 months ago

            well, it wouldn’t be a felony, they don’t own their apple id lmao

            but it certainly wouldn’t impress neither the prosecution, nor the judge