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Back to the grind slaves. /S
Why the /s? They’re not being sarcastic and you’re just quoting them.
But there’s literally no reason to end that if staying home still gets work done
It doesn’t give the same feeling of power to the people in charge if they don’t see the
dronesworkers sweat.Yup. It’s all about that sense of control. That’s what they’re paying for. I saw a quote from a survey of execuitives: “I don’t know if my employees are walking their dogs for 4 hours per day when they’re working from home, but I know they can’t walk their dog when they’re in the office”.
Keep in mind, business execuitives are known to believe shit like, “when I go to the gym, that’s work, because I need to be healthy for the business”.
They believe they own us. They believe they deserve to.
Feudalism 2.0
Office real estate.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/adigaskell/2023/03/05/how-remote-work-has-affected-real-estate-values/
This has had an understandable impact on office values, which fell considerably and remain below 2019. The author believes these valuations will remain below those levels for the next decade.
Simulations of office values, that took into account remote work rates, show that the value of all NYC office properties dropped by more than 40% in 2020. Predictions for 10 years after the shift to working from home suggest that office values in 2029 will remain an average of 39% lower than they were in 2019.
How many days do you think it will take until he calls for unions to be declared illegal?
He is already arguing the NLRB is unconstitutional.
Depends how much Musks’s companies try to unionize.
The asswipes, Elon and Vivek, own several empty office buildings.
You got to love this. The Pentagon just failed its 7th audit in a row. It has a budget of $1tr. And yet the cost savings team decides that penny pinching by making life harder for workers is where the real savings are to be found. Not the giant black hole of finance which is the military industrial complex.
Noooo shhhhh, we’re not supposed to talk about HOW THE PENTAGON HAS NEVER PASSED AN AUDIT. We’re supposed to be talking about the border, come on people, get it together.
Lol, how fast would he get merked for suggesting we cut Pentagon budget
You’ve gotta look at it from the perspective of a poor multibillionaire who desperately needs to buy his fifth superyatch so he can work his five CEO jobs remotely
How is working in the office saving the pentagon money?
General strikes, anyone?
Please!
But oh no here come the liberals again to tell us how that would hurt the economy and people need to be able to buy stuff. And that this just still isn’t the right time to make a big fuss.
So they’ll be coming in every day to their offices in Washington right?
…right?
It’s interesting they have multiple offices. Offices they’re already not in. If there was a time for a general strike it is forever ago.
“iT’s Up To ThE sTaTes!!!1!”
Saying the quiet part out loud again.
They believe that us not being forced to do what they want simply because they want it is a “privilege,” and one that they can and will just arbitrarily decree to be null and void.
That says pretty much everything you meed to know about what they really think about everyone other than themselves.
And ironically enough, what they think is that they themselves are privileged.
So, he and his cabinet will be working 8 hours a day at least 5 days a week in DC ? Can we get that in written please ?
Maybe not in DC, but don’t underestimate how many hours most of these psychopaths actually work. They do come to work (maybe not in DC, but to some office somewhere) and work for 100 hours a week, because they place no value on anything other than work. You can fault them for many things, but billionaires are almost always true psychopaths with no concept of anything beyond working to achieve power.
Trump is a different story. He’ll say the golf course is his office, where he makes his deals.
Disagree. When you look at their schedules a lot of work hours are actually like lunch meetings or golf trips or whatever they need to do to justify networking without actual work.
I remember my last job, I would have to take days off for sick days, or half days for the Dentists. My boss however would send out emails like “Hey I am going out of town to Palm Springs, I’ll be there for 3 weeks, I will be available for phone from the golf course so I am really only taking 2 days of PTO”
You can fault them for many things, but billionaires are almost always true psychopaths with no concept of anything beyond working to achieve power.
I can definitely fault them for that
Their work is a lot different than the work we do. (it’s not harder)
There’s no way Musk “works” 100 hours a week. How do you think he’s found all this time to spend with his new bestie Donald? By all accounts the guy spends a significant amount of his time playing video games and on Twitter. His “work” is lunch meetings and zoom calls with the board where he just spitballs a bunch of nonsense.
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I agree! If Elon musk cannot show up to his offices at Tesla, SpaceX, Twitter, xAI, and Washington for 8 hours Monday-Friday, he should be fired without severance as CEO or co-chair of his government department.
Rules for thee, not for me.
Guy who sells cars wants people to need cars.
“Requiring federal employees to come to the office five days a week would result in a wave of voluntary terminations that we welcome”. this is and was always the reason american businesses were eager to force everybody back tp work. eat the rich.
Don’t forget to include giving middle-management a reason to exist as well as justifying the commercial properties expenses! Man do I hate capitalism…
Unless Musk somehow copied himself several times, he is working remote for most of his companies each day.
ROFL.
That’s hilarious. You actually think Musk works?
He does some work.
Don’t forget the shitty sub he designed
Guessing he designed the “Hyperloop” too. Ie. The single car wide tunnel that is prone to jam after a car fails and it’s claustrophobic
Don’t forget the Hyper loop toxic sludge!
More “conceptualized” than actually designed.
Like Trump’s health plan! No wonder they are soul mates.
Sadly, tweeting is part of his job of owning Twitter.
naw. that’s him trying to cosplay as a human.
Trying, and failing… He really sucks at it
He probably considered designing the cyber truck to be work.
He got to pick the color of the paint.
What paint?
Exactly
lol 😂
Only on his Diablo progression…
You know he’s a swiper anyway…
“Working”…
But he is in a position to oppress others.
I liked the meme posted a month ago…
“Great. I get to delete my work email and collaboration apps from my phone”
Musk made a rant last year interview that “It is immoral for you to work from home if people building your car, or delivering your food cannot”. As an employer, you have the option to pay more for extra expenses/time involved in coming to office if that is super important to you.
I’m not going to take lessons in morality from Mr. I-Promote-Nazis-On-My-Website
I don’t think we should ever listen to moral opinions from ANYONE who has dedicated their lives to skimming as much money as possible off other people’s hard work, and not just a few people but millions and millions. They are whatever the capitalist, economic version of a serial killer is.
Nah, I don’t agree with paying people more to come into the office. Working at home has costs for me that the company doesn’t compensate me for, plus it saves the company money in infrastructure and resources. If you get paid more to come into the office, I want to be paid more for my electricity, plus the desk and chair and monitor and the space in my house for them.
The average commute commutes 30 minutes each way, traveling an average of 15 miles, for a total time cost of 250 hours for a job wherein you are paid for 2080 hours of work.
The cost per vehicle mile is now about $0.72 including all costs. The average commuter traveling 15 miles one way will burn $5,400 commuting. Man then there is the cost of childcare. For instance maybe your kid gets home at 4P and you get off at 5P. If you commute you’ll be back and 5:30 and you have to find a solution. One solution is one partner arrange to be off but that has its own cost. If you want to itemize the cost of having someone pick up and watch your kid its about $15-20 an hour 180 days * 2 hours or so. So up to $7000. This is not even counting the times that kids have the day off from school but mom and dad don’t or times a kid is sick.
That is to say you commit 12% more unpaid work + commuting costs for the privilege of being there in person. If the median worker earns about 60,000 they are incurring as much as $20,000 in costs in both time, transportation, and childcare.
Compare that to the cost of running the company laptop 40 hours a week 50 weeks a year is about $10. A home office can be had for $1000 ever. As far as the space I have one which I’ve worked out of in my tiny studio come on man. Are you really shocked that you have to pay someone more to come in?
Hell we haven’t even talked about the cost of living in the expensive places companies like to situate themselves vs the surrounding oft cheaper areas!
https://www.care.com/c/after-school-transportation-for-kids-cost/ https://data.bts.gov/stories/s/Transportation-Economic-Trends-Transportation-Spen/bzt6-t8cd/ https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2021/one-way-travel-time-to-work-rises.html
There is also expense/time of hygiene, laundry, drycleaning, restaurant lunch/coffees/snacks
Before Trump’s tax “cuts” you could deduct home office expenses from your income on your taxes. Any improvements or utilities just for the office area were 100% deductible, and a certain percentage of household expenses based on the square footage of your home and office.
Specifically, you don’t qualify for those cuts if you’re a W2 employee. You can if you’re a 1040. Because of the way Covid worked out, that ended up meaning a whole lot of people got chopped off from a tax cut they otherwise would have had.
I had been working from home before Covid as a W2. The credit wasn’t big; it amounted to a few hundred bucks for the year. But it’s not nothing, and I always remember it when MAGA says Trump cut your taxes.
I usually got a couple thousand in deductions. But I included 10% of all my housing expenses including my mortgage, not just utilities. Then again I had oil heat with an electric baseboard in a leaky house for most of that so my heating bills were astronomical.
I wonder how all the folks working from home getting a fat tax deduction would have changed history.
I mean, coming into the office also has additional costs associated. Fuel, mileage, commute time, etc.
