According to its current privacy policy, with an account, Hue gets access to the configuration of your system to provide the right software updates to the devices. It can only use your data for marketing or share it with third parties if you provide additional consent.
However, in a change to the current policy, Yianni says Hue will not collect usage information from users without additional optional consent. “So, we do not require users share anything about how they use our products,” he says.
“Previously creating an account was consent for usage data processing that we are in the process of decoupling and will be decoupled before accounts become essential — that makes sure it’s possible to create an account without sharing usage data,” says Yianni. However, if you choose to use the cloud services for things like out-of-home connectivity, you will need an account, and Hue will process your data, he says.
If this change to the privacy policy does happen, Home Assistant’s Schoutsen agrees that it would make the requirement for an account more palatable. “But it all depends on the exact changes,” he says.
With the current system, anyone with physical access to your Hue bridge can take it over just by pressing the button.
If a bad actor has access to your home, I doubt light bulbs will be your main concern…
They’re probably the only thing worth stealing in my home.
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Notably they would also have access to normal physical light switches. Oh no, someone in the room could turn my lights on or off, the horror.
Read: Before YOU were able to verify who was using the device. But now WE want to know who is using the device.
god i hate this crap. what is the alternative to this intrusive shit from companies? is the diy home automation, and software? i know have hear of a few out there, also that its hard to setup.
Here’s what that means - demand a refund, start a class action suit, idk every corp is doing this rug pull at the same time hoping they can get in before the law catches up.
How does one start a class action suit?
Don’t buy shit that’s remote controlled by a corporation. If you can’t use it offline you haven’t bought it at all.
the issue is that Hue devices can actually be used offline without issues. They are changing that retroactively for users.
There is a lesson in this…
You will still be able to use them completely offline after you complete the setup process, it’s in the article. Regardless, I only have a couple devices, so it’ll be pretty painless for me to rip em out.
requiring an account seems to be like a first step to remove this ability
Better get them offline right away then, before they’re updated.
Isn’t the whole point of Phillip’s Hue’s devices + bridge supposed to be that it could all be operated locally?
Traditional non-smart bulbs also work locally, and for a lot less money.
Can’t control colour temperature and brightness, and it’s a pain in the ass getting traditional bulbs to automatically turn on with your morning alarm!
That said I personally wouldn’t buy proprietary smart lighting - all my lights are running the FOSS WLED firmware, controlled through self-hosted HomeAssistant and HyperHDR.
What lights do you use?
Got a bunch of Athom bulbs (and smart plugs) along with a custom-built LED strip that’s attatched to the back of my TV!
Well shit. I liked my hue bulbs. They were the only ‘smart’ stuff I was willing to set up in my home. The reasoning they gave for this is so disgustingly disingenuous.
The good news is, most hue bulbs can be controlled directly over zigbee now. I migrated mine a few days ago, and the trickiest part was persuading Hue to delete the bulbs so they could enter pairing mode.
Ohh how can I do this?
You’ll need to have a zigbee radio on a HomeAssistant instance (maybe possible with other software).
And on HomeAssistant, run ZHA (or similar) with the zigbee radio.
Sorry if that’s teaching to suck eggs, just wanted to clarify.If you’re already set up with that, it’s just a case of deleting a bulb from the Hue bridge, and searching for it using the zigbee integration. Once it’s deleted from Hue, it will go into pairing mode. You may need to power cycle the bulb if it does not appear in the search within 10s.
HASS was able to support my white/ambiance bulbs and colour bulbs without any issues. In fact, it responds faster. The only downside is that they don’t so much fade, as jump to a new value. The update frequency is about 2 times per second.
So you have probably figured it out by now but on the off chance that someone else is reading this and wonders about the bulbs not fading but instantly changing, you can set the transition speed (At least if you are using zigbee2mqtt, I am brand new at this so I haven’t tried zha). It would be found in “Settings (Specific)” for each bulb. I set my bulbs to 0.25 seconds transitions and they fade very nicely! Also thank you very much for getting me started with HA! It’s very neat. It’s a liiiiitle jank. But it’s very cool and I’m happy to not be forced into letting some other company have control over who uses my lights and who doesn’t.
Ah, excellent! Thanks for that, I’ll definitely see if I can do it under ZHA.
And no problem, glad you got off the hub!
Hue is also already tracking you a lot.
I can’t turn on the lights, i forgot my password
Can’t get into my house, I forgot the code
These people are solving issues that don’t need to be solved IMHO
Solving problems is hard, and of questionable profitability given the difficulty.
Solving non-problems, or even better, non-problems that you yourself have turned into problems… That’s where the money is.
