Question: what do you mean illegal in Canada? AFAIK the only extra laws here are already covered by rule 4.

If they have any sense they’ll do Cuba first. It’s just way too easy a win for a fascistoid government that’s willing to actually deploy and likes red baiting.

I’m not even clear what the guerilla situation would look like in the post-Fidel era.

Mmm yes, big ass rotors to keep that solid gold/uranium/whatever frame off the seabed.

Sabre rattling, or legit threat?

Their negotiation position within NATO isn’t absolute, so I think the most likely response is the EU agreeing to look at it, and that Trump is smart and handsome, and then mostly doing whatever they were going to do anyway.

I really deeply hope the universe is finite for this reason. Every great or terrible thing always happens forever, there is no causality or consequence.

You sure? I searched just to check and Three Dog Night came up.

“1 is the loneliest number” was a line from an old song, I think.

I mean, the idea of socialism has certainly seen setbacks since the end of the last century, hasn’t it? While gross inequality is still a huge problem, and I hope it will be solved somehow, the Lenin/Stalin version of socialism feels like it has basically lost.

A good, quick read if you don’t want to dive into books is the article Why Public Property?

I hadn’t seen this one before, thanks for that. There’s some great examples in here, on the subject of monopolies.

This phenomenon only continues to be proven true over a century later. The United States today has a far greater concentration of industry than it did during Lenin’s analysis. The small business sector has also consistently been on the decline. This is an observable reality. [Accompanied by a graph]

Monopolies and particularly oligopolies are having a moment, but the chart only goes back to the 70’s, and implicitly shows total company number going up (why is hard to say, it’s a paywalled article, and they mixed data from two other sources). If you go back further, I think it would look pretty different - the old gilded age ended, Standard Oil was broken up, and some of the giants of the postwar era got knocked down a peg or more. Further, the trend is pretty uneven by sector. Mom and pop shops are dead now, but independently owned franchises and publicly traded whatevers are hella dominant, and contractors (or “contractors”) are everywhere.

A clear modern example of this would be the smartphone industry. Competition has made cellphone manufacturing more and more complex over time. A cellphone these days is far too complex to be created by a small business. One requires access to enormous factories, machines, and supply chains. According to The Wealth Record, “the net worth of Samsung is pegged at $295 billion.” This is roughly the amount of capital one would need to acquire to even begin to be a serious competitor to Samsung.

I actually know quite a bit about semiconductor manufacturing. It may be the most capital intensive endeavor of all, but you don’t quite need to be Samsung to do it. If you want to build your own at scale, a fab might be “only” a billion dollars. That’s a lot, but many startups have raised it (for other things), so it’s a different story from being Samsung on day 1.

If you just want your chip design made, it’s way easier. TSMC exists to build other people’s designs. Companies like Sam Zeloof’s new enterprise exist for small scale printing of your prototypes. Most of the basic design tools can be found open source.

The network effect has made some genuine monopolies and definitely many oligopolies, but other things are less affected. Individual rich people get rich by chance (if you don’t mind me introducing my own source, which happens to be my favourite one).

All this to say, I don’t think concentration is going to kill capitalism in the near future, or even come close.

It is easy to look backwards at prior systems, such as the feudal economic system or the slave economic system, and then figure out how that system developed into the system afterwards. Adam Smith, for example, already explained in detail in his book Wealth of Nations how capitalism developed out of feudalism long before Marx.

It’s a tangent, so I’ve separated this out, but this is also an interesting claim. The end of feudal economics is an actively researched bit of history, and was far from neat and tidy. IIRC some of those old fealty-type agreements lasted into Marx’s time, if being mere formalities by their end. And I’m not sure why we (correctly) decided slavery was bad after doing it since before recorded history, either.

Well, to go back to my OP, good luck with that.

No, no it hasn’t risen since - unless your definition of socialism has expanded far more than I agree with. Meanwhile, economies elsewhere have gotten more and more market-oriented and financialised.

Yeah, well what I’m saying is we’d do that to ourselves too; we’re not to be trusted with our own biology. Not yet, at least.

Yeah, and I’m still not sure how that happened or if democracy is here to stay, honestly.

I can’t really see things going back there economically, though - modern technology is just too good, and isolated illiterate peasants can’t make it.

Edit: Unless we really fuck up and cause nuclear winter or something. I suppose if we’re starting from scratch being agrarian again is on the table.

For a while, and then it failed. Meanwhile, the Western world got more and more free market.

Correct. In the long run every sector is going to end up like agriculture in the Midwest - all the land is in use, it’s just a matter of planting and harvesting the same way each year.

It’s pretty unclear how much of the breeding 30000BC-1500AD was deliberate, and how much was just a kind of selection as people decided to eat their naughtiest dog when famine came. I’m talking about the highly-targeted breeding that brought us the pug unable to breath and German shepherds with back legs that stick out wrong because it looks cool.

Also, wolves are pretty good at what they do, I’m not sure it’s fair to say they’re worse than dogs somehow.

Ah yes, it was “Cloud” before, wasn’t it?

Radio for the 30’s. Atomic for the 50’s. Mass production for the old 20’s, maybe?

I just like, don’t believe it. Capitalism is hundreds of years old, and it’s only gotten stronger.

Spontaneous revolution/organisation for revolution has been promised for a long time, and is no closer to happening.

Leave if at all possible. If not possible, set things up to increase the chance you will be able to one day - maybe move to near a border or something, and make sure your documents are handy and you have cash on hand or similar.

Yeah, but which one gets to rule next? That’s why monarchy has been so successful - the king’s firstborn my be a moron, but there’s (roughly) guaranteed only one, and palace intrigue under a difficult-to-directly-challenge figurehead is a Nash equilibrium.

Unless he dies in the first year or two it doesn’t change the possible outcomes too much, I don’t think he’ll be immediately ousted and things go back to normal, which is kind of what you’re getting at.