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  • missingno@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    Youtube is far too expensive for anyone to try and run a competitor to. I don’t think we’ll ever see a replacement.

    Google is still losing money on it, and might never make it profitable. There’s a real risk that Youtube just dies on its own and nothing replaces it.

  • ThatGuy@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Reddit isnt dead yet, and it will be much harder for youtube to die. Kinda hard to make creators move when its their job, and without them moving, there is no chance of any progress occuring.

    Right now, the best thing they can do is host their content on youtube AND other alternatives like Odyssey. This lets them make the same money they always had, but also gives people an option to watch it somewhere else. Unfortuately, your average youtuber is completely clueless about this option and so you mainly only see tech people doing it with only a few exceptions here and there.

  • CIWS-30@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    Youtube’ll probably last for a while, but it feels like it’s getting shittier each year. Search is terrible now, and then there are those in-video cards you can’t get rid of, even though there’s a checkbox in the settings (at least on Browsers) to get rid of them, they don’t actually go away unless you use an adblocker.

    Plus, the algorithm is stupid, and when you search there’s no common sense filters like don’t show things I downvoted, or don’t show things I’ve already watched today. At the very least, Youtube needs some serious competition for it to shape up and stop doing dumb things that annoy everyone.

    I hate that Tiktok’s run by the Chinese government to spy on people of interest (like journalists), but it’s giving Youtube some much needed competition otherwise.

  • fear@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    Youtube regularly spits on its content creators and they come crawling back for more, that’s how few alternatives Youtube has out there. Youtube is not currently at risk of death. Reddit might hemorrhage more users come July, but it hasn’t died and won’t die anytime soon, either.

  • RIPandTERROR@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    Can anyone eli5 why pornhub doesn’t just use their long standing streaming infrastructure to create a sfw site like… Idk “VidHub”? I feel like they could be a genuine competition with very little adjustment.

  • mmmplak@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    Youtube is one of the things that less techie people think of when it comes to internet videos. It’s quite mainstream and will stay for long.

  • XTL@sopuli.xyz
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    1 year ago

    There are already many other sites and as YouTube keeps getting worse and greedier there will probably be more and more creators going elsewhere.

    One example is firearms content moving to utreon. And obviously nsfw which has never been welcome there being available on many other hosts.

    YouTube is not the only possible video service that can exist in the world.

    It’s unlikely that another monopoly can take over their business as a whole, but YouTube can definitely fail and video hosting has long been fragmented.

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      1 year ago

      The worst thing about youtube is that they forced all my favourite youtubers into becoming streamers, and that’s just an entirely different type of content.

  • patryk@feddit.de
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    1 year ago

    YouTube won’t die anytime soon because running a Video Streaming Platform is way too expensive if you’re not a big company. So there’s no good alternatives. PeerTube Instances couldn’t handle the massive data that YouTube can

  • ZILtoid1991@kbin.social
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    Platform deaths will be very slow, very long, and very painful.

    We all hoped Twitter will have one major and spectacular screw up, which will end the platform. It didn’t. Instead Elon started to sell the previous verification to anyone with at least $8 to spare, made the API a paid feature, made it so his yes men will be pushed up to the top, dismantled the moderation team and system, and started to promote far-right conspiracy theories. Sometimes certain features stop working.

    I guess if reddit doesn’t start to screw up even more, they can even survive. Maybe even recover. But if they’re continuing to learn the wrong things from the Twitter fiasco, they’ll go downhill, make more and more people to leave, until the site is mostly abandoned. The opsec specialists already left twitter, LGBTQ people leaving it slowly, and even Japanese artists are now pulling double duty with Mastodon. I’ll try to promote the fediverse in my country too, as who knows when will Elon decide to silence the Hungarian opposition, and Hungarian Facebook already has issues with the report system, seemingly on purpose.

    • exohuman@kbin.social
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      The only problem is YouTube has a way to monetize their videos, attracting creators who work to make money on the content. PeerTube doesn’t have that yet.

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        Handling ads and payments is a whole other issue that federated platforms haven’t even begun to tackle yet. Crypto might be a way forward but it’s messy enough that it might turn some people off.

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        1 year ago

        Something like Patreon should work just as well with peertube if it’s otherwise suitable, right?

  • simple@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I don’t think anything will ever replace YouTube. Did you ever wonder why there aren’t many good alternatives?

    It’s because video streaming websites are very expensive and usually run at a loss. The storage and bandwidth to support all these users constantly uploading and watching videos is really high. It’s why the Twitch competitor Mixer shut down a few years ago, it was bleeding money.

    I use an adblocker and hate ads as much as the next person but imo prople do take these video services for granted. They need ads to survive and I can’t imagine a world where I’d need to pay a subscription to use them.

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    1 year ago

    Odysee and Rumble are actually really solid alternatives to YouTube. They’re just missing the content. No, they’re not as good as YouTube, but they’re good enough.

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      The problem really is that if Odysee for example got really big, one of the other corporate giants would just buy it and turn it into shit, there seems to be no winning this battle in the long term.

      edit: wow I just want there and its pretty obvious they have zero moderation there, the content is overrun with conspiracy garbage and anti-government insanity. That place is DOA.

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        That’s what’s awesome about Odysee: it’s built on the LBRY blockchain protocol. Anyone can host on the network. What you said is accurate for Rumble, but more competitors usually keeps all the players in check.

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      Rumble is lacking so many simple features that YouTube has, like being able to just listen to content while the screen is off. YouTube seems to be the only video streaming app able to do this.

      • UrbenLegend@lemmy.ml
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        Only if you pay for YouTube Premium tho. I use the YouTube mobile site with either Brave or Firefox + Video Background Play Fix extension to workaround this silly limitation.