Pope Francis has formally approved allowing priests to bless same-sex couples, with a new document explaining a radical change in Vatican policy by insisting that people seeking God’s love and mercy shouldn’t be subject to “an exhaustive moral analysis” to receive it.

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    11 months ago

    This is a PR move, don’t fall for it.

    Quotes from the man himself, on how much he actually supports marriage equality and LGBTQ peolle:

    “I cannot hide my concern for the family, which is threatened, perhaps as never before, from within and without. Fundamental relationships are being called into question, as is the very basis of marriage and the family. I can only reiterate the importance and, above all, the richness and the beauty of family life.”

    “What is at stake here is the identity and survival of the family: father, mother, and children. At stake are the lives of so many children who will be discriminated against in advance, depriving them of the human maturation that God wanted to be given with a father and a mother.”

    “[Marriage equality] is not a political struggle; it is the destructive attempt toward God’s plan.”

    “”[The push for marriage equality is] the envy of the Devil, by which sin entered the world, which cunningly seeks to destroy the image of God.”

    Don’t fall for their lies.

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      Not only that but the document specifically states priests cannot bless gay marriages, unions, or when a couple is dressed as if they are getting married.

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    I love how it’s a “blessing of a union” and NOT the sacrament of marriage, which would mean they are still “living in sin” but we love you and accept you but winks at the right they aren’t married. Separate but equal much? This is hilariously bad pandering and I hope they get flak from all directions. Fuck the catholic church and fuck the vatican.

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      Baby steps, dude. Plus, the need the numbers, membership is down and it’s affecting revenue. 🤣

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        I get what you’re saying and they are certainly falling forward in some ways but maybe they should actually do the work of redemption for their wrongdoings to address their dwindling membership, not pump out PR.

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    And who wants to predict the flood of catholics saying the pope isn’t catholic because of this statement?

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      They already did that when he told people to be nice to trans people. He didn’t tell them to embrace them into their lives, just treat them nice and they lost their shit about it.

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          If Jesus had access to pantaloons or blue jeans he would have rocked them.

          No store bought wine though. He was a foot guy.

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        To be fair, he said be nice. Modern christianity demands brutal suppression of anyone you don’t like.

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    The new document repeats that condition and elaborates on it, reaffirming that marriage is a lifelong union between a man and a woman. And it stresses that blessings in question must not be tied to any specific Catholic celebration or religious service and should not be conferred at the same time as a civil union ceremony. Moreover, the blessings cannot use set rituals or even involve the clothing and gestures that belong in a wedding.

    The Church is doomed to become obsolete. Until they accept that gay people have the right to marry (and they won’t), people will move away from the Church.

    The times are changing, and the Church will sooner or later fall into irrelevancy. Besides, it’s not like their God is doing anything helpful at all in these times of crisis, is he?

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    The Pope is WRONG!

    -People who want to run the country based on the Word of God.

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    far too little and thousands of years too late. the catholic church is a violent, authoritarian child rape and child genital mutilation cult and needs to be entirely destroyed.

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    Crazy how God created the universe 13.8 billion years ago and then changes his mind on policies now. If I didn’t know better, I’d think that people were making up these policies arbitrarily.

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    The new document repeats that rationale and elaborates on it, reaffirming that marriage is a lifelong sacrament between a man and a woman. And it stresses that blessings should not be conferred at the same time as a civil union, using set rituals or even with the clothing and gestures that belong in a wedding.

    So no real moral progress from the Catholic Church; just more PR to get people back in the pews.

    If Catholic God was real, he should be seeking out our love and mercy.

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    He says they “can” but knows they won’t or quietly tells them not to. This pope is all PR and bullshit he knows they won’t follow through on. The Pope can pretend that Catholics are now tolerant of gay people, but go to a Catholic Church throughout most of the planet, particularly the third world and see how tolerant they are and how much they follow the Pope. They are tolerant of pedophiles in their clergy though, since they don’t seem to want to fix that issue