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    Mounting evidence from exercise science indicates that women are physiologically better suited than men to endurance efforts such as running marathons.

    We have a lot of marathon data. There is a large, consistent difference showing the opposite. This article is horrendously unscientific, so many claims, assumptions, and over summarizing and simplifying

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      1 year ago

      Author does address this, btw. I still think it’s a bad argument. I just couldn’t fathom that they would say this and not further clarify.

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        they make claims and assumptions to address it, they dont really cite anything. Shit like this “The inequity between male and female athletes is a result not of inherent biological differences between the sexes but of biases in how they are treated in sports.” is a hypothesis, but it is not being stated as one, it’s being stated as fact. It’s a testable hypothesis, they could have controlled for the variable of pace setting runners that they bring up by only looking at statistics of running events that do not have this variable.

        And like, the whole premise could be true, that women were also hunters, modern runners with modern sports medicine arent ideal evidence, that kind of endurance might not have been needed for their hunting, women are still humans and humans have the greatest running stamina of any animal. But besides capability, ancient humans also could have had roles determined by sex, it’s at least prevalent in other apes like gorillas. Either way is possible without more solid evidence and it’s pretty crazy to say one way or another is scientifically true.

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      It took me literally less than a minute to google and disprove that claim in this ‘article’:

      The Olympic records for the event are 2:06:32 hours for men, set by Samuel Wanjiru in 2008, and 2:23:07 hours for women, set by Tiki Gelana in 2012.

      From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marathons_at_the_Olympics#%3A~%3Atext%3DIn_2020%2C_both_the_men's%2Cby_Tiki_Gelana_in_2012.?wprov=sfla1

      This article is not scientific, its simply an opinion piece and should be treated as such. And honestly I don’t even think it was a good opinion piece. And why is it hosted on Scientific American?

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        It took me literally less than a minute to google and disprove that claim in this ‘article’:

        The Olympic records for the event are 2:06:32 hours for men, set by Samuel Wanjiru in 2008, and 2:23:07 hours for women, set by Tiki Gelana in 2012.

        1.Wikipedia is not a scientific source.

        1. You are, if anything, showing that men are faster than woman. The claim the authors make is about endurance.

        I found this study that seems to support their point.

        “Men Are More Likely than Women to Slow in the Marathon”

        https://www.researchgate.net/publication/263585668_Men_Are_More_Likely_than_Women_to_Slow_in_the_Marathon

        This article is not scientific, its simply an opinion piece and should be treated as such. And honestly I don’t even think it was a good opinion piece. And why is it hosted on Scientific American?

        I can’t read the article so unfortunately don’t have the grounds to agree or disagree with you. But I’d be carefull voicing my option like this when your only source is Wikipedia and isn’t speaking about the claim you are trying to disprove.

        Edit: incase anybody is interested in reading some more real evidence instead of Wikipedia, this study goed deep into mens vs womans endurance and highlights a few problems with research focusing on males as the baseline.

        Sex Differences in VO2max and the Impact on Endurance-Exercise Performance

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          Men are faster than women in a marathon because they can maintain a pace for longer without slowing, that’s called endurance.

          I can’t believe the superior endurance of men can even be up for debate, but clearly no one does enough exercise anymore for the self evident to reveal itself.

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            Endurance is not speed. If I can go 4 hours at 5 miles per hour before I have to take a break to rest and you can go 2 hours at 10 miles an hour before you have to stop, you’d be much faster than me in a 2 mile race. But that doesn’t have anything to do with endurance.

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              Why are you changing 2 variables. Endurance is your ability to perform at a certain level for a period of time. Kipchoge has more endurance than me because he can maintain my 800m pace for 26 miles. Speed is literally only a consideration for sprinting. As soon as you’re performing past that, it’s all endurance. And when we look at all tests of endurance; iron man, ultra marathon, military fitness, triathlon, etc etc. Men come out on top.

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        Men tend to be taller, so I’d think longer limbs are an advantage. I don’t pretend to know anything beyond that.

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        And why is it hosted on Scientific American?

        Because if you say things like this enough, people believe you