• GBU_28@lemm.ee
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    11 months ago

    That’s exactly the vocality I’m referring to.

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      11 months ago

      Except your characterization of it is a lie.

      He never said anything that could possibly be interpreted as being against paying for access to content, or as a subscription to an ongoing service being in any way inappropriate.

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        11 months ago

        It’s not a lie.

        I’m asserting two things:

        1. He formerly produced a free app that was very popular.

        2. He openly discussed the the API pricing changes destroyed the model Apollo was operating on.

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          1. He did plenty of monetization on the app, and made good money with it with volume that doesn’t exist on Vision Pro. He never said anything implying apps don’t deserve to be paid for.

          2. In literally every discussion he ever had about the API pricing change, he said that he entirely supported their need to monetize the API. His issues were not any sort of issue with the premise of the API changes. It was the specific nature of the API changes very obviously being for the sole purpose of making using the API to make an app impossible, when the app ecosystem was the entire reason Reddit was successful to begin with.

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            11 months ago

            You said I lied and I didn’t. Retract that.

            My assertions are consistent from comment 1

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                11 months ago

                Quote the exact words in my first comment that are untruthful

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                  11 months ago

                  All of it. He was never an advocate for software being free or against the right of companies to monetize their API in any context. He was against a specific company using “monetizing” their API as an excuse to make it impossible for third party apps to exist.

                  His position has not changed in any way and there is nothing that is in any way consistent between any of his statements or behavior.

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                    11 months ago

                    I never said he “advocated” anything.

                    You’re arguing in bad faith. You are being toxic.

                    I asserted some very basic things about how people may be familiar with this person, and you abstracted a whole fight.

                    -He made a free app.

                    -He gained greater public visibility during the reddit API price changes.

                    Those are fucking facts, and those are quite clear in my original comment.

                    I never claimed he was a champion of “free”.