• Hootz@lemmy.ca
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      9 months ago

      Immigrants don’t as a group do everything in their political power to fuck people over…

      Republicans and Conservatives do.

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      9 months ago

      “Immigrant thinking killed this beautiful child. Every immigrant is to blame.”

      Hmmmm, I’m not sure what immigrant ideology is, or where all the oppressive legislation that immigrants passed is, but I’m sure you can find a way to scapegoat people you hate.

      You know the drill, just keep asking more and more absurd questions with confidence, and when someone says you are driving people to a hateful conclusion with loaded questions, you can just say “what, I can’t ask questions anymore? What happened to free speech?”

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      I think we should try to answer this rather than just down voting. I think the difference is that conservative thinking led to the policy that led to the person being targeted, and possibly also to a climate of intolerance that made the attacker/s feel like they had the support of the community to do that. We’re not really talking about who is too blame for this individual instance (obviously that’s the person/s who manslaughtered this child). We’re talking bigger picture.

      When an immigrant commits a crime, I suppose you would argue that liberal thinking created the situation where that could happen, but I think it’s a false equivalence. Big picture immigrants don’t disproportionately commit crime, and there are major benefits that come with immigration. While trans people absolutely are disproportionately the victims of violence, and there are no real benefits to transphobic policies.

      I guess I haven’t done great at this, please other people build on this reply, it just felt wrong to see a fair enough question just being downvoted with no reply.

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          I mean that was possibly their intention, but nevertheless I think it is a reasonable question to ask, and I found it difficult to answer comprehensively.

          If we dismiss everything like this as troll, and not worth thinking about, we miss an opportunity to develop point of view and add nuance to our arguments.