This post was originally going to be titled “How does music discovery on Apple Music compare to Spotify these days?” but I want to make it more broad.
All advice and ideas appreciated!
thanks for sharing gnoosic, it’s already given me some unknown stuff that is right up my alley :)
You’re welcome and happy hunting.
I think they are powered by the same AI, but music map shows you how closely they are related
Thank you! I discovered some new music via these suggestions!
These are so damn cool! Thanks so much for sharing these links! You’ve got me all excited! :)
The hivemind hard at work. I am keeper of tidibits, curator of useless facts.
I listen to my local college radio station, as well as a handful of others on TuneIn. It’s nice having an idea of what people under 30 are into.
Thanks for the TuneIn callout. For some reason I’ve never bothered with a radio app but this is pretty slick. I should probably RTFM but it looks like like you can tune in nationally/globally? I gotta figure out where the cool kids are enrolling these days.
Yep! You can listen live to whatever is hosted on there. It’s definitely not everything, but I bet a solid 75% of US-based radio stations are on there. Can’t speak much to non-US radio, but I have listened to some stuff out of Germany before.
Another cool one is the site n10.as. It’s a volunteer radio station out of Toronto (I think). It’s primarily reruns these days, but there are still some folks doing live shows.
All of the BBC stations used to be on TuneIn, but they got pulled a couple of years ago, which pissed me off.
As a Brit, your college stations always fascinated me. We have student radio here, but it’s a completely different vibe. From what I’ve heard of your stations, they sound almost professional, with good presenters spinning the tracks they want to play, whereas our student radio is mostly just people learning how to talk into a mic, reading news bulletins poorly, and playing whichever tracks happen to already be on the playout system.
And I speak as someone who was involved in my university’s radio station when I was there, studying for a radio production degree…
My university’s college radio station runs the full gamut of what you described. It’s kind of interesting how they do it.
Broadcasting students get to have a show after completing certain core courses. They begin over summer, when listenership is very low. Listening to the station in late June/early July is adorable. I should actually tune in today, now that I’m thinking about it, because it’s around time for all the baby broadcasters to be doing their beginner shows.
Students must have the option to end their show at some point, because a lot of student broadcasters just kinda disappear. Others, though, will stay on for 2 or 3 years as they finish their degree. Some of them become VERY good.
If you’re happy to reveal such information, what’s your local station, because I’d like to hear it.
I haven’t listened in a few months, so now I’m nervous that there won’t be any cute, terrified new kids this year lol.
Either way, it’s a good station. Enjoy!
EDIT Listening now. We’re good… Mathea B. seems pretty flustered 😅
Cheers!
NPR Tiny Desk and KEXP’s live performances (both on YouTube) have both helped me discover amazing musicians.
I think I discovered most new stoner and doom bands on youtube: 666MrDoom.
A lot of the time I hear new music from different genres by hanging out with friends.
And bandcamp is also a good tool for discovering new stuff.
The Daily Mixes from Spotify have done a great job of figuring out what I enjoy, and finding more of it from different artists
i like traditional musics from around the world so when i fancy something new i start with wikipedia articles on instruments i like and rabbit hole through links to get terms and countries and things to put into search strings on youtube. One day i started with tar (precursor for both sitar and guitar) and ended up grooving to Philippine boat lutes, which are brilliant. https://piped.simpleprivacy.fr/watch?v=K7hYfnG7mJM
Trad musicians tend to play in several groups so that’s another source of rabbit holes to explore. And just keeping an eye out for interesting things other people post. Mostly individual clips but sometimes happen into treasure troves like at the start of the first lockdown when someone I followed on Twitter posted about Met Opera in NYC streaming a different opera each day for free. It was a great opportunity to learn about a new-to-me type of music so I grabbed it, thinking it would be a couple of weeks at most. A year and a half later they finally stopped and I was an addict :)
Also libraries. Libraries can be fantastic for exploring new musicians and types of music.
Even when algorithms are good, there’s still a lot more out there waiting for listeners ❤️
Spotify radio is usually spot on and very close to what I like.
Nother way I use, is through music reaction videos.
Right, Discover has been my main vehicle for finding music for years. Spotify definitely does have a great algo for suggestions.
Reaction videos is actually a good call. I found Hi Ren last week that way, and while it isn’t really a casual listener, per se, I did think it was really compelling. My issue with the react videos generally is they feel ‘acted’ a lot of the time because YouTube loves to rabbit hole people into those. Good way to make a buck at the moment
Yes, the reaction scene is a bit weird, but I like @tanktheteck in particular, since I have similar tastes to him.
Honestly? TikTok.
I have found more good music and culture on TikTok than anywhere else on any other platform. Remixes, up and coming artists, classical, jazz, hippie, pop, subculture. You name it.
I think this has to do with how TikTok’s algorithm nails you down to similar interests and stuff, but also not so much like YouTube where it’s literally ONLY more of the exact same.
Spotify sometimes hits a good station, but you largely have to find your own vibe-of-the-moment.
TikTok now, though, for years, has been turning up some of the most interesting and good to listen music. I get northerner civil war anthem remixes, super genuine pop piano music that I’m blown away by, culture videogame anthems, and more.
The one drawback is that it’s not fast. If you search through music on a service, top lists and “audiophile” lists, you’re bound to find tons of cool new things that you probably never would have found. TikTok cannot compare with doing your own actual mass searching. But, as a platform of just using it, it’s been otherwise by far the best.
My girlfriend has found a lot of great music there as well over the past couple years. She doesn’t even search it out, really. She doom scrolls like normal but the culture of tik tik has a bent towards soundtracks and people seem to like to show off their cool music that way. Good call
Depending on what I am looking for:
- BBC Radio 6: mainly new stuff, although I have been surprised with very good oldies.
- The newsletter To the teeth for all things metal https://totheteeth.substack.com/ The playlist in spotify is really good too.
- Last.fm, even if it’s not as used anymore, I still find very good recommendations there.
- Spotify Discovery playlist has surprised me a lot in the past, but not that much lately. It suggests me what I was in the mood to listen to last week, maybe not that much today. The daily mixes are fine, but it’s pushing the same songs too much.
- The website https://1001albumsgenerator.com even if I am not a fan of some genres, it’s good to learn about some records.
From this same thread I am sure I will use https://www.gnoosic.com in the future.
When I am actively looking for some new bands to check out I use https://www.gnoosic.com/ It is surprisingly spot on, at least for me
Doing it now! What’s the strategy for the initial recommendations it makes for artists? Are these the primary suggestions, or are they meant to dial in recommendations later? I’m not sure if I should be searching them or responding “I don’t know” when I’m not familiar with them.
Another question: what’s your strategy when approaching a new band that catches your attention?
Listen to most popular? Pick an album and ride?
I just had the though that picking from an artists 1st - 3rd album might be a good alternative to looking at whatever is most recent.
I check Wikipedia or wherever first, not for reviews but just to get a sense of when they were most active or just to get a full discography. Sometimes I notice Spotify just straight up doesn’t have some bands oldest stuff, so it helps me figure out where I want to start
I listen to music the most in bed so that’s when most of the discovery happens and Tidal and Bandcamp are my platforms of choice, thinking of dropping Spotify.
On Bandcamp I’ll look at artists that have worked with artists I know I enjoy as well as their production companies.
When I’m using Tidal, I’ll have a playlist full of stuff I like, make an empty playlist, add things to the new playlist that I’m thinking of adding to the old one, listen to and modify it until I feel like I enjoy the playlist, and then merge the two.
Once it hits like 500 I do a little cleaning, keep the favorites from particular artists, and look for other stuff to add.
Pretty much only use Tidal for ambient/experimental electronic music so theres plenty of stuff to rummage through.
I tend to use a combination of youtube/bandcamp and music blogs to source new music.
Have also set up [email protected] as a community to record any recommended links. It’s looking a bit sparse at the moment.
I mostly use radio, with Shortwave it’s very cozy. I mainly listen to radioparadise.com that is mostly aligned with my music taste
Honestly, I like Apple Music well enough, and have been subbed for as long as it’s existed, but the discovery is atrocious.
Mostly I find new music through listening to the radio (very old skool of me…), and following the #NowPlaying tag over on Mastodon. And on here as well, actually.
