• jabjoe@feddit.uk
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    6 months ago

    Unfortunately there is no car that isn’t proprietary and even ones without “auto pilot” have things like collision detection that can slam on the breaks for you.

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      6 months ago

      There are high quality reliable cars that still run great from the early to mid 2000s. They are very inexpensive compared to modern vehicles. May cost a bit more in gas.

      You control them completely

      Didn’t he preach in the past that NOT using automated driving systems would be completely unsafe?

      Confidence Man!

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        6 months ago

        Even those are riddled with proprietary devices. Cars have had a CAN bus network of devices for decades. These closed smarts alone have caused things like the emissions scandal. These alone interfere with right to repair and competition. What is new is the spying and direct control, but the problem is older than that.

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      6 months ago

      You’re clearly not looking hard enough. Maybe you just prefer a dangerous road where nobody takes responsibility?

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        6 months ago

        What? No, I want people to be responsible because that is what works.

        Search “car slams breaks in false positive collision detection”. There are loads of stories. Mine beeps sometimes, but thankfully doesn’t apply the breaks itself.

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          6 months ago

          Yes and that’s bad. I’m with you on all that. You CAN however find plenty of cars without all that. It just really limits your selection.

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            6 months ago

            Even modern cars don’t all have self drive and collision avoidance. I’ve driven a few new cars recently and none do more than flash messages and beep when they forsee a crash.