Trans people, or anyone else who wishes to change their name from what their parents wrote at birth, are completely valid in their new name.
Whataboutism to twist and call me transphobic? Why do you mention trans people here? ‘Pronouns’ and ‘pronounce’ have nothing in common.
Third, “John” is another example that actually proves why your argument is wrong. It comes from the old hebrew יְהוֹחָנָן. But as other cultures adopted the name and changed it to be their own over hundreds of years, small changes turned it into Ιωάννης in Greek, Johannes in Latin, Jean in French, and eventually John in modern English. Why is the same thing happening to Kamala such an issue for you?
Because that change was organic, and took hundreds of years? Are you going to conveniently ignore that?
Her name is what she says her name is
…while ignoring all the nuances, that is, her conditioning by a society that has taught her to internalize hatred towards her own identity? Attitude like that of your is the reason why second and third generation immigrants suffer from the pain of having a cultural disconnect, making them feel like an alien - being discriminated in their own country, and being a foreigner to their own culture. And now, you’re trying to gaslight a native speaker?
I truly cannot stress enough how utterly socially unacceptable it is to correct someone’s pronunciation of their own name. In this respect, names are different from other kinds of words. Please reconsider this embarrassing position of yours.
Consider keeping this imperialist opinion to yourself. The last thing I need is someone bullying me into accepting how words from my culture and language is spoken, and how I need to accommodate to your inconveniences. It may be socially acceptable for you to make other PoCs feel all weird and uncomfortable about themselves, but you can’t bully me into this.
“Imperialism is when you respect someone’s self identification” 🤡
If you pronounce it with all schwa vowels but you speak in a Hindi accent I’m sure nobody would bat an eye. As a white dude, I would probably sound more like I’m making fun of her Indian heritage if I imitated a Hindi accent to say her name as closely to how you say I should say it as possible. But in an American accent, this pronunciation is not accurate. It makes her name sound like “Cuh-muh-luh”, which sounds more like a rude nickname related to semen than an earnest attempt to preserve her name’s origin. Even ignoring my own arguments about why I want to say it the way she says it, it’s just not
Most people can’t control their voice with the precision needed to accurately preserve the original phonetics of everyone’s names EXACTLY as they should be said. They can make the sounds they need for their language and very few more. Changes in pronunciation are inevitable, not imperialist. Imperialism would be if I went to India and insisted that everyone there named Kamala pronounced their name the way my Vice President does. Unfortunately the British did basically this, but that’s not what’s happening when a willing immigrant’s child chooses for themselves what to be called.
Insular brain-rot specimen over here with a limited capability to understand nuances, I know it hurts your head when I have to make you empathize with PoCs, and how they’re tired of correcting people all the time to the point that they give up and pick a approximate pronounciation, but clowns like you will do their best to decide what’s right for them, and at the same time, suppress what people from the same group have to say about it. Hilarious, right?
The last thing I need is someone bullying me into accepting how words from my culture and language is spoken, and how I need to accommodate to your inconveniences
Get fucked. We’re talking about a person who has a name and has a preference to how it is pronounced. No one gives two shits or a single fuck how you feel about that.
A “preference” that is a farce, and was shoved on her, and many other PoC, and which they had to accept after getting tired of repeated mispronunciation, you fucking dickhead. Do I have to stress this multiple times?
Whataboutism to twist and call me transphobic? Why do you mention trans people here? ‘Pronouns’ and ‘pronounce’ have nothing in common.
Because that change was organic, and took hundreds of years? Are you going to conveniently ignore that?
…while ignoring all the nuances, that is, her conditioning by a society that has taught her to internalize hatred towards her own identity? Attitude like that of your is the reason why second and third generation immigrants suffer from the pain of having a cultural disconnect, making them feel like an alien - being discriminated in their own country, and being a foreigner to their own culture. And now, you’re trying to gaslight a native speaker?
It does not take a genius to look at the butchered transliteration(s) - (funny how there’s no agreement on a singular pronounciation?) versus the original pronunciation on Wiktionary.
I truly cannot stress enough how utterly socially unacceptable it is to correct someone’s pronunciation of their own name. In this respect, names are different from other kinds of words. Please reconsider this embarrassing position of yours.
Consider keeping this imperialist opinion to yourself. The last thing I need is someone bullying me into accepting how words from my culture and language is spoken, and how I need to accommodate to your inconveniences. It may be socially acceptable for you to make other PoCs feel all weird and uncomfortable about themselves, but you can’t bully me into this.
“Imperialism is when you respect someone’s self identification” 🤡
If you pronounce it with all schwa vowels but you speak in a Hindi accent I’m sure nobody would bat an eye. As a white dude, I would probably sound more like I’m making fun of her Indian heritage if I imitated a Hindi accent to say her name as closely to how you say I should say it as possible. But in an American accent, this pronunciation is not accurate. It makes her name sound like “Cuh-muh-luh”, which sounds more like a rude nickname related to semen than an earnest attempt to preserve her name’s origin. Even ignoring my own arguments about why I want to say it the way she says it, it’s just not
Most people can’t control their voice with the precision needed to accurately preserve the original phonetics of everyone’s names EXACTLY as they should be said. They can make the sounds they need for their language and very few more. Changes in pronunciation are inevitable, not imperialist. Imperialism would be if I went to India and insisted that everyone there named Kamala pronounced their name the way my Vice President does. Unfortunately the British did basically this, but that’s not what’s happening when a willing immigrant’s child chooses for themselves what to be called.
Insular brain-rot specimen over here with a limited capability to understand nuances, I know it hurts your head when I have to make you empathize with PoCs, and how they’re tired of correcting people all the time to the point that they give up and pick a approximate pronounciation, but clowns like you will do their best to decide what’s right for them, and at the same time, suppress what people from the same group have to say about it. Hilarious, right?
“It’s brain-rot to call someone what they tell you to call them” 🤡
Get fucked. We’re talking about a person who has a name and has a preference to how it is pronounced. No one gives two shits or a single fuck how you feel about that.
A “preference” that is a farce, and was shoved on her, and many other PoC, and which they had to accept after getting tired of repeated mispronunciation, you fucking dickhead. Do I have to stress this multiple times?
You just want to be argumentative.