• adroit balloon@lemmy.ml
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    Once again they were given a choice between becoming a state or remaining a territory

    Hawaiians could have protested, revolted, or one of many other options. But they didn’t.

    That’s the thing about facts— your opinions don’t magically make them untrue, regardless of how many folksy sayings or logical fallacies you conjure.

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      1 year ago

      Like the Hawaiian Sovereignty Movement which began actively protesting and gained support in the 1960s, pretty soon after the referendum?

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        1 year ago

        Like the Hawaiian Sovereignty Movement

        sure. why not? people can object to or protest anything.

        the fee expression of speech in a democratic forum, however, certainly argues against any of this being “fascist”, though. thanks of pointing this out!

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          So then your point about

          Hawaiians could have protested, revolted, or one of many other options. But they didn’t.

          Is false

          So to quote you

          That’s the thing about facts— your opinions don’t magically make them untrue, regardless of how many folksy sayings or logical fallacies you conjure.

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            Is false

            only if you intentionally take them out of context and twist the meaning. because they didn’t do that before the vote. as you said:

            Like the Hawaiian Sovereignty Movement which began actively protesting and gained support in the 1960s, pretty soon after the referendum?

            so, despite your obviously bad-faith and disingenuous argument, I’m not as stupid as you think I am. nice try.

            That’s the thing about facts— your opinions don’t magically make them untrue, regardless of how many folksy sayings or logical fallacies you conjure. NOR how much you try to twist my words.