A joint U.S.-Mexico topographical survey found that 787 feet of the 995-feet-long buoy line set up by Texas are in Mexico.

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    Sounds like Mexico can just take down most of this thing.

    Edit: As a US citizen, I support Mexico’s immigration services to detain any Texas construction workers that illegally cross the border to service this thing.

    I also would support the governor of this region of Mexico to put these construction workers on a bus and drop them deep in the heart of Mexico somewhere.

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      As funny as it would be, taking it out on construction workers who probably didn’t choose to be there seems a little unfair

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      They should. Send Abbott a bill for polluting their waterway too, while they’re at it.

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    LOL CBS! There is no such thing as “technically” in Mexico. The barrier is in Mexico and Mexican authorities should just cut it up and remove it.

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    US: “Everything on this side of the line is ours, those are the rules.”

    Mexico: “But you can’t keep moving the line into my side, that’s not fair!”

    US “Yeah huh, mom said that’s how it works.”

    Mexico: “No she didn’t! You’re lying!”

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    Wait what? Texas put up a border barrier without permission from the Federal government?

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      Yes and it’s causing deaths (it has nets under it), so the US govt is not best pleased.

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          Too bad for Texas that the constitution outlines that only the federal government has the right to deal with other countries. Both the Treaty Clause and Logan Act cover this base. Texas is wrong.

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          The vast majority of illegal immigrants overstay their visas. You’re looking at the southern border, you should be looking at airports

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          Texas has much bigger problems they should be dealing with. Having a reliable grid should be a much bigger priority than the border, but Texas would rather kill people (at the border, or just in their own homes during a snowstorm) than fix their actual problems.

          But hey, that’s the republican MO.

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                If only you could use your eyes. There were never any saws only scallop edged plates designed to keep people from being able to grab between the buoys and slide through. The nets can also be understood to be barriers In place to stop people from diving under the bouys. Without seeing a picture of the nets, I cannot make any claims to their danger because they could be a fine mesh or they could be a rope net. One would be stubstantially more dangerous than the other.

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                There’s an easy way to avoid the murder buoy saws called “stop crossing the border illegally”.

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          You seriously think Texas has to deal with more immigration than the entirety of the rest of the U.S.?

          Critical thinking really needs to be taught in school.

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            I think that TEXAS has to deal with illegal immigration across the TEXAS boarder into TEXAS. I said nothing about anywhere else and the amount of immigrants they have to deal with.

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              The Border Patrol and Customs (in the Department of Homeland Security) is actually responsible for securing borders. States do not get to decide how their borders are enforced.

              We all have to deal with illegal immigration, most of which doesn’t even happen on the southern border. We manage to do it without building death traps or tricking people into getting on busses and sending them to states we don’t like.

              I know Texas and Abbot think they’re special but they’re wrong.

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      Yes? Hell, border towns put up barriers without state or federal permission.

      Thats not the problem.

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    I thought that the treaty from the Spanish-American War made the Rio Grande neutral territory. Any land that appears in the middle of the river doesn’t belong to either country.

    Unless there have been other treaties that I didn’t learn about in my history classes, the buoys technically are infringement on neutral territory.

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    From the article:

    Nearly 80% of the controversial floating barrier Texas state officials assembled in the middle of the Rio Grande to deter migrant crossings is technically on the Mexican side of the U.S.-Mexico border, according to a federal government survey released on Tuesday.

    The revelation was made public in a federal court filing by the Biden administration in its lawsuit against the barrier, which Texas set up in July as part of an initiative directed by Gov. Greg Abbott to repel migrants and repudiate President Biden’s border policies.

    The river barrier, assembled near the Texas border town of Eagle Pass, has come under national and international scrutiny, including from the Mexican government, which has strongly voiced its objections to the buoys. Advocates, Democratic lawmakers and a Texas state medic have also expressed concerns about the structures diverting migrants to deeper parts of the river where they are more likely to drown. 

    Earlier this month Mexican officials recovered two bodies from the Rio Grande, including one that was found floating along the barrier, but the circumstances of the deaths are still under investigation. Mexican officials condemned the barrier in announcing the discovery of the bodies. But Steve McCraw, director of the Texas Department of Public Safety, said preliminary information indicated that the first person found dead had “drowned upstream from the marine barrier and floated into the buoys.”

    Abbott and other Texas officials have insisted the buoys are necessary to stop migrants from entering the U.S. illegally, and the state has refuted claims it violated federal law and international treaties when it set up the floating barriers without permission from the Biden administration or Mexico. (Article continues)

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      and the state has refuted claims it violated federal law and international treaties when it set up the floating barriers without permission from the Biden administration or Mexico. (Article continues)

      That’s the clincher. States are 100% not allowed to treat internationally or make policies regarding other countries.

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        Building a fence has nothing to do with that. If Texas had setup a federal border crossing, that would be illegal. If Texas had that fence constructed in such a way that a federal border crossing were blocked off, that would be illegal. A natural land border augmented with a fence isn’t an international incident and you don’t need permission from the federal government to do that.

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          You sure as hell do when you put 80% of it outside your borders, outside US borders no less

          This kind of thing could spark a war in different circumstances - imagine the Mexican army goes to dismantle the buoys in their borders, and one of several possible groups from Texas confronts them and it leads to a skirmish

          Mexico would be entirely within their rights - it’s on their property and it’s suspected to be leading to deaths

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            Sounds like if the Sovereign Nation of Mexico is as upset about them as you are, they should go remove them.

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                The subject of this post is that “nearly 80%” of the border fence is in Mexico’s Sovereign border, so I don’t see the issue with them removing the trespassing part of the fence.

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      If the barrier is still floating, there aren’t any gang members or ne’er-do-wells even attempting to cross it. If there were, the silly thing would be on the bottom of the river with bullet holes in it.

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    They should sell it back to Texas at a huge markup. Then when it floats back over to their waters, sell it back again, and again, and again. Endless money stream.