This is ridiclous
Don’t worry, there will be suitable USB accessories available for this.
Only $299!
“that’s insane!”
gets wallet out
“I can’t believe this!”
gets out card
“unbelievable!”
And a $199 stand for it, sold separately.
The generic Chinese version that does the same thing: $12
No, it’ll be paired to specifically to your computer and doesn’t work on anyone else’s computer.
excellent marketing strategy to get us talking about their stuff that would otherwise get almost completely under our radar.
i mean fuck where the power button of a product ill probably never need is.
Hahaha I thought this was the onion and the button was the big fugly thing that covers the whole bottom
Part of the new Apple power bottom design strategy.
Apple insider are already framing this as not a design flaw but an advantage somehow
It is convenient when you don’t hit that button accidentally, only by lifting the thing up.
Seems consistent with the Apple justification of “ape users shouldn’t be physically able to do something stupid, then they won’t blame the computer”.
okay, I was gonna say that it’s not that big of a deal because you can just slightly lift it when you want to turn it on (or just slide your finder under it, if they’re small enough) but judging by that photo, it seems like the power button is at the back of the computer? whyyyy??
anyways, im more impressed by the fact that their new shiny mouse who finally uses USB-C still has the charging port at the bottom. im starting to think they think it’s a good design???
I read someone else musing that they must have thought that keeping it plugged in all the time would be bad, so the made it impossible to use the mouse while plugged in. Seems plausible. I suppose it would degrade the battery? Or the cord drag would be bad?
The design forces the user to use it wirelessly. Apple just wants their products to look better, meaning NO CORDS EVER. It’s entirely about aesthetic.
They should have just released a mouse pad that can charge the mouse wirelessly then.
I think Sun made mice that didn’t work without their metallic mouse pad, that had some sort of grid on it.
Apple’s problem is in following:
There are industrial designers, fashion designers, managers and engineers.
Apple doesn’t have industrial designers. Only fashion designers pretending.
In a normal company managers consult designers and engineers back and forth, both figuring out some compromise and also asking the other group whether there is a better way.
Not in Apple. Their designers are clearly superior hierarchically to engineers.
And in the end their products are of inferior quality (for that price).
Apple’s idea of how things should look and work, when expressed in words, is absolutely fine! It’s actually wonderful. And perfectly possible, it’s actually the same goal as with industrial ergonomics.
Except they don’t have the process they need to fulfill that. They only have the PR to pretend.
“But it looks bad and could be bad for the battery!”
Every other wireless mouse has it in the front, Apple has no valid reason to leave it at the bottom.
The fact that everyone hasn’t taken on this design trend just shows how stupid it is.
They also take on stupid design trends, like removing the headphone jack.
This one is just several degrees more stupid.
There’s the unsolvable problem - to prevent companies doing stupid things.
And there’s the solvable problem - have enough competition so that companies doing stupid things would become or remain small.
Which is why all the stupidity in computer industry in our days is a result of patent laws and protectionism.
Unless your computer has issues, can’t you just power off from within macOS?
And then how do you turn it back on?
I should have clarified that I was referring to “Restart” rather than “Shut Down” because I’m not aware of how frequently people actually “Shut Down” their devices. My intention was to ask: How often would you need to physically press the power button when the functionality of turning the device on and off is accessible through software?
On another note, I think the amount of attention posts like this get is a pretty clear indication of how deep Apple hate truly runs. I’m fine with Apple, more of a Linux person myself, but stuff like this makes me shrug my shoulders. Only Apple could garner this much attention for putting the power button in a weird spot on a tiny desktop that nobody complaining about it would buy even if it was on top of the device.
Yeah, I do agree it’s a fair bit of Apple-bashing. I’ve also learned by reading through other replies in this thread that apparently Apple’s standby mode is very reliable and consumes <1W. It’s apparently also very easy to wake back up.
I can say none of that about my Windows and Linux machines 😅 so that may be where my confusion came from
How often do you need to actually turn it on? Won’t it sleep? Pretty much should only need to turn it on after moving the thing. You can restart from with in the OS if you need to.
I don’t know if there is a version of Poe’s law for Apple fanboys, but your comment makes me think there should be.
I don’t know if there is a version of Poe’s law for Apple fanboys, but your comment makes me think there should be.
Roflmao
I don’t own a Mac Mini, and never will. I’m not trying to defend Apple.
But I’ll use my work laptop as an example. I have external monitors, so I never open the damn thing except on the rare occasions I need to use the power button. This happens infrequently enough that it gives me a pretty good notion of how often people need the actual power button on a modern computer.
If the button can be reached without turning over the device or even picking it up, as it sure appears, what’s the problem? Other than that it’s an Apple device and people love to hate on Apple devices.
My home laptop has an uptime of almost 30 days at this point, who needs a power button?
I turn my desktop off every single day, so I need the power button daily, I turn my work laptop off weekly.
There’s no reason to turn off a Mac Mini. It uses about a watt of power in sleep. The idle draw from the power supply in your desktop probably uses more power than the Mac Mini in sleep.
it’s a shitty design? From a company worth over 3 trillion, that gives them extra shitty points.
Wait, WHAT?
They put the powerbutton on the underside?
For fuck sake Apple…
It’s very bad idea to put power button under the bottom, Who think the designer should need to be fired here
Uh how often are you having to power on your Mac mini? I think mines been off like twice last year.
Having the power switch away from where I often blindly poke around to plug cables in, sounds like a good choice.
Damn, that is some amazing copium…
They had a well established place for the powerbutton, why change it?
As an IT guy, if I worked with Macs this would be terrible to work with
Well first off if you look at the picture, this is a much smaller device. If the power switch was in the same place as the larger case it would be on the side edge.
Secondly because it’s now moved into a space where it’s not going to be accidentally hit, and requires an intentional effort to press.
That’s great, how many IT guys have to manually go around turning off hundreds of computers at the switch instead of running some automated method across the whole network? Such a rare and unlikely situation that the average home consumer and user of a device such as this really doesn’t ever have to factor in.
As another IT guy at a university, having to manually turn on 30 computers in a classroom for updates or whatever is already a pain in the ass. Wake on LAN is not a reliable solution. Havin to manually flip over every box, then putting them down, and then fixing the cables that got yanked… I’d throw those fuckers in the trash.
The Dell Optiplex 3080 Micro’s form factor is perfectly tiny without compromising user comfort.
You’re a Windows shop? Why don’t you deploy a policy that prevents users from shutting down computers?
Mainly because our students are idiots and will complain if the computer doesn’t turn off. Or worse, take independent action and hold the power button, or actually yank the power cable. Maybe I should just lean into it and convince them that the monitor is the computer.
Jokes aside, how could I implement such a policy? I’ve only found one that hides the power buttons from the start menu, but Windows still responds to ACPI.
Jokes aside, how could I implement such a policy?
The policy you’re looking for is in Computer Configuration->Policies->Windows Settings->Security Settings->Local Policies->User Rights Assignments->Shut down the system
This policy takes account or group names from your local or domain AD as its variable (like Domain Admins). After it’s successfully applied, only those users or groups will be able to shutdown the machine gracefully.
Create a new GPO or edit an existing one and apply it to the ADUC organizational unit containing the computer objects you need to target.
Guess the Magic Mouse design team was getting bored
Asahi Linux 👀
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I believe that reply was meant for another comment, not sure how I replied to that one.
Oh an Apple thread. More people angry at something they were never going to buy anyway.
I thought it was satire at first, because the magic mouse has a charging port on the bottom making it unusable when charging
Turns out its not 🤡
if it didn’t make us angry, and INFLUENCE OTHER BUSINESSES TO DO THE SAME REPUGNANT SHIT, we’d be buying it.
More like laughing at what they were not going to buy anyway.
I’m still laughing at the mouse you can’t use while it’s charging
Excuse me. Some of us do buy Apple products. And there’s nothing that comes close to the bargain price of the base model, so we laugh at it while buying it too.
I can get an I9 32gb 1Tb mini pc for under 500€. Where is the bargain?
This is peak nerd rage over something nobody is going to actually care about.
Seeth and bitch over minor design choices while apple prints money.
Imagine a scenario where a bunch of these are used as a server and to power cycle all of them need to turned off.
You’ve certainly got to have an imagination. Thinking apple is designing a Mac mini for that niche use case and all 12 customers there.
There are few companies in the world who garnish this much attention on nitpicky and inconsequential nerd shit while completely ignoring them designing some absurdly efficient ARM processors on the planet and printing money.
