• hayes_@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    8% is a joke. Conversation starts at 20%. You’re asking for 2-4 hours of 12-20 I have awake in my life. Full stop.

  • mercano@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    At least. If you work an 8 hour day, a 0.5 hour commute each way adds an extra 12.5% to work time commitment each day, and it’s considered unpaid time.

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    1 year ago

    Maybe that’s the approach for hiring…remote employees are hired with the understanding that they will earn less than equivalent in-office employees. Commute time, transportation expenses, and any other incidentals make up the difference. It’s all made clear and transparent upfront.

    If remaining remote limits an employee’s promotability for reasons of company need, this is also made clear.

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      1 year ago

      Why should they earn less than somebody who is in-office? A remote employee costs less in physical resources like office space, heating and cooling, electricity and internet.

      Ultimately it’s the end result that matters, not where it’s done.

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        Because remote employees don’t spend their own time and money on commuting to work. Those factors, along with saving on childcare, are the main drivers for desire to work remote, yes?

        A company can reduce its office footprint to account for fewer in-person employees and save money. But that alone doesn’t address the factors above faced by employees who commute, so those workers should be compensated.

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          A remote worker’s worth is no less valuable than one who’s onsite. If you want something like this to work then the employer should pay a differential for those who have to be onsite to compensate for the time and money spent commuting.

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            1 year ago

            So pay the WFF employee more than the WFH employee?

            One way is baked in, the other is a topping, still damn near identical though

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              1 year ago

              Instead of the stick of paying people less from working home, they’re getting a carrot for deciding to be there. That has a wildly more positive perception for workers IMO.

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    I could trade my WFH for a room with a view and a door. :) fuck openspace and flexdesks!

    • ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml
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      1 year ago

      Honestly I wouldn’t. I can’t think of anything that would make me work in an office again. I can’t do it.

  • CodeBlooded@programming.dev
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    Holy smokes, working from home is not a “raise.” You should be compensated for the value you bring, not where you’re sitting when you bring value.

    • Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca
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      I spend $400 a month on gas because of my long commute. Work from home is definitely a raise in my situation. Gas bill goes down to $100 a month. Works out directly to a 5% raise just in gas alone. Car insurance can be switched to leisure only saving money further. Gain an extra two hours a day which were unpaid before, so my workday is now only 8 hours instead of 10, that is another equivalent to 25% on an hourly rate indirectly.

      Then there is all the other benefits such as just being happier and more productive.