• SaakoPaahtaa@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Did you read what I said?? I was discrediting that claim you fucking loon.

    Why do you feel the need to specifically discredit putins claims? Alright if it was sarcasm but even that aught to make sense mate

    The Fukuyama rant

    Aight my boy has not yet learned that an author can make great analysis even if you don’t personally agree with the outcome of his analysis. Once you graduate high school you’ll get used to nuances like that in literature.

    them planning to join NATO didn’t STOP the war, did it?

    No. Because planning to join doesn’t mean they joined already. Had they joined no war would’ve broken out. Simple as. It’s crazy how reality, out of all things, is the one thing you refuse to believe.

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      1 year ago

      Why do you feel the need to specifically discredit putins claims?

      What even is this question?

      Aight my boy has not yet learned that an author can make great analysis even if you don’t personally agree with the outcome of his analysis.

      I didn’t say anything about his analysis specifically. Just that if “The End Of History” is the kind of stuff you’re interested in, you may be a bit politically naive.

      Once you graduate high school you’ll get used to nuances like that in literature.

      Puerile.

      Had they joined no war would’ve broken out. Simple as.

      This is fucking hilarious. They didn’t get the chance to join. Because Putin didn’t want them to. (And also wanted Ukraine but hey ho, an excuse is an excuse)

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        1 year ago

        What even is this question?

        Sorry let me ask that again, why do you feel the need to specifically discredit putins claims?

        Just that if “The End Of History” is the kind of stuff you’re interested in, you may be a bit politically naive.

        The analysis in it is interesting. I’m personally a socdem (as you prob already know by now) so no I don’t like him because I think he’s right all the time. What a weird way that’d be to read someone’s analysis lmao. I’ve read marx too. And I laugh at Zeihans predictions on europe. But mostly, I laugh at your attempt at convincing me you read literature.

        Puerile.

        But true. Explained my thought process more above.

        They didn’t get the chance to join.

        Doesn’t matter to my point tbh. Friendships don’t help deterrence, only official military alliances do. That is my point and nothing else. putin had no choice but to invade before any NATO stuff come alive, but would’ve invaded with or without any plans of joining.

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            1 year ago

            As I suspected I had been conversing with someone who didn’t even have elementary idea of the geopolitical situation and goals of rus*ia. Except for the things putin says about it, apparently. Please educate yourself on the subject I mentioned prior, Zeihan really is a good and easily understandable source on analysis over it if you want to check it out, even if he’s very memeable.

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              1 year ago

              Russia is not justified in invading Ukraine. I have zero interest in entertaining that notion.

              Keep licking boots.

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                1 year ago

                Huh? In the rare case you are not misreading my comments due to being embarrassed, you REALLY need to educate yourself on the subject.

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                    1 year ago

                    Ukraine is existential to rus*ia. The invasion was always going to happen, it was just a matter of when.

                    You’d know this if you’d knew even a little bit of geopolitics over the region. Like literally the tiniest amount of education would’ve saved you all these messages.