lol and I say this as someone who grew up in Soviet occupied eastern europe. Trust me, there are very few systems worse than communism, well at least, that version of it.
Heard someone say that their grandparents who left the USSR during the collapse in the early 90’s told them something along the lines of “not everything the Soviet government promised us about communism was true, but everything they told us about capitalism is true.”
I don’t think any of the nations who call themselves “communists” can actually be considered communist. Hell, most of them are pretty much dictatorships, which is the farthest you can get from communism.
If were gonna start arguing semantics though, then what is pure capitalism? As even the US has limits on what capitalist shenanigans they draw the lines on. Ie policies like antitrust laws, which are explicitly to prevent monopolies, because while capitalism strive for monopolies, monopolies also usually kill the market so…
The answer is obviously socialism when defined as the government owning or regulating the means of production, meaning just regulation is enough no need to own them.
Communism doesn’t work yet because we can’t seem to plan resources use for large economies as efficiently as organic markets do it.
But unregulated markets just destroy themselves, end up overexpensive enshittified adfests trying to push subpar products to you that won’t last you even the walk home.
Capitalism is like the cancerous form of market economies.
And communism has historically been about as healthy as the vegan diet of a nutritionally uninformed anemic teenager. Its not bad as an idea, but market economies just work better when they’re properly regulated.
I’d definitely argue with you that countries like China aren’t actually communist.
Say what you can about communism, but you clearly see that capitalism is so much worse.
lol and I say this as someone who grew up in Soviet occupied eastern europe. Trust me, there are very few systems worse than communism, well at least, that version of it.
Communism lifted an illiterate nation of serfs into an industrial and atomic super power in, like, 50 years.
Which is to say just as bad as capitalism but approximately four times faster.
But was it communism? Or was it labour camps and dictatorship?
Heard someone say that their grandparents who left the USSR during the collapse in the early 90’s told them something along the lines of “not everything the Soviet government promised us about communism was true, but everything they told us about capitalism is true.”
I don’t think any of the nations who call themselves “communists” can actually be considered communist. Hell, most of them are pretty much dictatorships, which is the farthest you can get from communism.
If were gonna start arguing semantics though, then what is pure capitalism? As even the US has limits on what capitalist shenanigans they draw the lines on. Ie policies like antitrust laws, which are explicitly to prevent monopolies, because while capitalism strive for monopolies, monopolies also usually kill the market so…
The answer is obviously socialism when defined as the government owning or regulating the means of production, meaning just regulation is enough no need to own them.
Communism doesn’t work yet because we can’t seem to plan resources use for large economies as efficiently as organic markets do it.
But unregulated markets just destroy themselves, end up overexpensive enshittified adfests trying to push subpar products to you that won’t last you even the walk home.
Capitalism is like the cancerous form of market economies.
And communism has historically been about as healthy as the vegan diet of a nutritionally uninformed anemic teenager. Its not bad as an idea, but market economies just work better when they’re properly regulated.
I’d definitely argue with you that countries like China aren’t actually communist.
https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/capitalism-with-chinese-characteristics/CECD36DB2C3623DEE4670F7897BAA3CB
It was also responsible for the highly anti-intellectual culture that existed and still continues in said country today. So it swings both ways.