Well I had hoped, naiively that Reddit would respect the developer community that had helped make their website so popular. A community of developers provided apps and services for them for the simple price of a free API. I thought the APIpocolypse might happen, but I thought reddit was special somehow and they would see how beautiful and vibrant that community was and not damage it for fear of damaging the soul of the website. Yeah, that was pretty fucking naiive.

Ah well, I’ll put my energy into Lemmy and Fediverse projects instead.

And no mention of what happens to their API but knowing google it either goes away entirely or totally changes with significant rework required.

Related, the reason I no longer use any google API: https://steve-yegge.medium.com/dear-google-cloud-your-deprecation-policy-is-killing-you-ee7525dc05dc

I’ve been on the internet since pretty much the start so I’ve seen dozens of great communities come and go. Normally they reach some kind of malthusian breaking point where they collapse under their own weight, I think this is the first time where sheer greed caused the end though.

So yes, this is the cycle of the internet. Death is actually good for an ecosystem though, it means that new things can evolve, such as the fediverse.

I do feel sad for what will be lost though, and every time I load Apollo to remember this great app with all the care and attention put in to it will be gone at the end of the month.

I would like to hear more about the move to Voat, what caused the failure in your opinion? I was not part of that as I had other things going on at the time.

Hacker News, a link aggregator similar to oldschool reddit before subreddits were introduced. I find it often has some interesting discussions but it’s not for everybody.

Precisely, you don’t have to be deeply technical to understand this, you just have to be willing to put in a little bit of work.

I also found it a little complex and daunting at first as it was my first contact with the fedirverse, and I’ve been on the internet since pretty much the start.

We’ll make it a great place to be, and other people will see the benefits and put in the same work too.

Precisely. Investors like apps because users cannot change their user experience, disable telemetry, block ads easily, and so on. They receive push notifications which drive engagement and allow easier tracking across accounts.

I could be tempted but none of that is going to happen. Even though this move will kill the community, it won’t kill it fast enough to cause a problem. There’s just too much money to be made.

He has a number of successful apps beyond Apollo, so I hope that they will tide him over until his next project. I would love the story arc where he returns and exacts vengeance on Reddit but I would definitely not blame him for never touching social media again.

I don’t know what happened but in the last half hour the website has become highly responsive again. Thank you admins for your hard work.

I don’t see a problem so long as they do so in good faith - for example publishing full event contents to ActivityPub instead of adding a link back to the Facebook Threads app, which is basically what a lot of news sites do with their RSS feeds to get advertising money.

So long as they do that, it’s not really possible to do a rug-pull. There are far more Facebook users than Fediverse users after all, so it’s going to be advertising for the Fediverse for as long as this lasts and if users would like to remain part of it they’ll have to move to another server. That is, assuming it ends.

To answer the question though, I don’t care for microblogging personally and I don’t like Meta as a company so I won’t use it. I appreciate the scepticism but I feel optimistic.

It depends on whether someone’s a member of the community or just because they want to scroll some epic memes. I expect many people are of the latter category and probably don’t even understand what the fuss is about.

It’s not like I’ll never look at Reddit again if there’s useful info on it but I won’t be part of the Reddit community again after the scorn and disrespect they showed it - I hope to help build something new over here.

I can’t do anything about Reddit’s decisions but I can vote with my attention and help to build a compelling alternative.

Look at the top right of my screenshot, you will see some extra icons. I’m sorry, I should have included the URL: https://lemmy.ml/post/1212570?scrollToComments=true

I was logged in under this same account as I was browsing.

Yes, looking at the docs linked from a sibling comment I see that upvotes and downvotes are part of the protocol, which is good to see. To prevent vote stuffing however, it does seem that all instances will have a database of upvotes and downvotes and who did them. They were never really secret anyway but it’s interesting that any server can see this, it’ll be an interesting development to be able to track vote brigading.

Being a member of the Fediverse is an investment in the future I feel. There’s not tons right now like on Reddit, but you can stick around and help build it by posting, commenting and voting. Alternatively, you can come back in a few years when this is the way that new communities form.

Reddit’s behaviour is a statement of intent for the future, to make money at all costs, sell up and become another advertiser friendly walled garden like Instagram. That’s fine for them, but I have no interest in being part of that.

It is yes, but there is an (unrelated) Android client called Jerboa if that is the OS you use.

I would very much like the Apollo developer to do this but possibly he’s burnt out on social media and would like to work on something else. He has developed a series of other unrelated apps that make him a decent income also.

Furthermore friends, please sort by new where possible to help give new posts visibility when you interact with them.

I expect it’s accurate to say; their architecture is not like a database where you can add an index on a blocked state and then join against it. You have to get a list of potential posts that the user might want to see and then eliminate any in the block list. There will be a few edge case users who have thousands of block entries and a multithreading strategy is likely required to swiftly filter it in a reasonable timeframe.

However, an architecture I’ve seen that works around this is to build this timeline in the background and present it to the user from a cache, I don’t know if this is what Twitter does as I never worked on that. However, if you want to not have a block feature but have some kind of mute feature anyway I don’t see how there is a meaningful difference.

Haha, that’s a throwback to the days when I helped to manage a phpBB board and there were a few members that would just continuously get into arguments so I edited the database so both of them had each other on their block list. It was very telling when I discovered they unblocked each other a few weeks later and got back to arguing and derailing thread topics.

It is definitely slower than usual. It’s not just you. The site is clearly under very heavy load.