Playing the world’s smallest violin in lieu of the admin listing of my least favorite lemmy instance. I probably didn’t have anything to do with it, but lying smearing dipshits have a way of garnering hostility towards themselves. Party time!
Interesting. This and other actions seem to hint that they got themselves into the crosshairs of legal law enforcement. You reap what you sow. I suggest that people don’t ignore potential issues with an instance, because it does spill over in unexpected ways. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FFdbbcj4Ao
The biggest problem with “federation” is the control given to bullshit admins in some of the biggest and how big into hiding their problems they are. One of the biggest instances has shoved two of their admins under the rug, without openly acknowledging why they did it or the drama there clearly is behind it, giving the impression that the problems those admins were creating have been addressed on one side and on the other just trying to dismiss it as “no big deal, they are just taking time off”.
So keep in mind joining some of those instances is just joining a good paint job. Sometimes, the rust breaks through, sometimes the rusted pieces get removed, but the people painting over the rust are still there.
It matters because when communities crowd around large instances, those admins have ultimate control over participation within them. And while easy to bypass, it will still affect the reputation your comment history would have represented.
Yeah, no, wouldn’t touch that from a longstick, specially from the political slant it’s coming from. Wikipedia itself already has enough problems, Ibis is just asking to be a misinformation hub.
To fight disinformation, you first have to know what disinformation is, and the people being activists don’t really care about how much of a hypocrite they are acting as or on what vague presumptions they are or aren’t acting on. My suggestion, do what Cambridge Analytica did and has continued to exist under Emerdata and competitors, but make the data collected and the inferred relations visible to all so that people can see their surrounding and other people’s surroundings and get a notion of how and why they might be getting affected by them. Instead, we have people arguing that keeping functionality already visible to admins, and easily subject to manipulation, but hidden to the rest of the users, like upvotes and downvotes, should be kept hidden in social networks supposedly intended to be more transparent. Not even going to bring up some of the people leading those networks. I have little hope.
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Sun’s problem was competing with Linux, which it couldn’t. Nobody wants to pay premium for discount proprietary Linux. Sun’s Java, however, still exists. Microsoft’s browser is far from the norm. There’s more alternatives to popular software than ever, whether it be office suites, video editing, 3d modeling, 2d painting, you call it. No, they don’t compete with the industry leaders that have both stability and far more features, but they won’t die off.
Embrace, extend, and exploit is just something that’s being thrown around to see whether it will stick as an argument, and quite frankly, I already see the 3E’s from already existing lemmy instances whose entire approach to the lemmyverse is essentially that - not that it makes it more ok, just that it’s clear that people have other priorities when they throw the concept aroud.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish
Nowadays, it’s more of a tactic for getting sued out of a couple of million.
Oh, hi dessalines, saw your downvotes, anything you disagree with specifically? Or is upvoting comments that say explain and downvoting comments providing said explanation just your vision of what you wanted lemmy to evolve to? Nice profile pic.
So, the Microsoft method - except that never really killed Linux.
It’s really basically number 2 to get you to move to Threads, the exploit part is going to happen on the Threads side, and is basically going to be with ads (which you can block or avoid seeing) or with selling data about the fediverse in one platform (which defederation isn’t going to be able to prevent against). But if embrace and extend is your problem, might as well defederate from kbin and mbin …
If people recognize the problem, it can be more robust like our legal systems. Maybe the federated nature of the system could also work towards one.
It has been, and it has been surprisingly ineffective.
Yeah, no, putting other people down is not the way to go, and is usually a trait of social networks I tend to avoid. Here’s what you could have said:
Lemmy may have fewer people, but it has more passionate people.
I sort of disagree, abusive power mods / admins can ruin your interaction with any community, big and small. The only thing that varies is how much of an effect that they can have and whether you have the bad luck to get targeted by their small insecure egos.
They want peaceful colonialism, though, preferably done in three days.
Best nomenclature for sorting.
My point is, if you are going to be dealing with it anyway, why would you participate in the social network that is order of magnitudes smaller? You can access content on reddit without an account, the problem is participating alongside the community.
For all intents and purposes, since you are still locked out on lemmy from doing because of its server-centric communities regardless of which instance you choose, it boils down to the same outcome for the same desired goal - creating an alt - except with an order of magnitudes smaller reward - far less population and engagement than on reddit.
So rather than sticking to lemmy, it seems natural that people go back to their old but bigger platforms.
Federated is great for maintaining persistence of your account beyond the whims of fickle admins, but that’s a tertiary problem. No one is that exited about keeping their user history, they are excited about participating with everyone else about the topic that is being discussed.
It’s not worthless, but I can understand it explaining some of the decreasing population numbers if they encounter it even just once after months of participating on the platform because of how disruptive it is. No one is normally going to stick around a community when only the fraction of the local users in your own lemmy instance can view it.
If you mean to choose a Yet Another Small Community of Users, there’s never been a shortage of those, and there’s barely a need for the federated space for that.
If you don’t want to see how abusing power to remove and drive users away from communities removes and drives users away from communities, I don’t know what to tell you, but I think people are coming to the federated space seeking alternatives to reddit and twitter, not just small communities, so unless something is done about the federated architecture, what happens to access to the biggest communities will always matter in regards to population numbers.
If a user gets their account banned and purged for barely any reason but extreme escalation, I think that will always be a concern - you have no assurance that users will simply create another account and remain. If there’s going to be abuse by the leadership in the alternative, why would anyone who comments on RedditMigration simply remain in the fediverse and not go back to Reddit? If you are going to get falsely accused accused and banned for shit reasons, even to the point of an admin of the most popular instance fabricating accusations that you are an alt of a CSAM account, why would most people remain?
It would probably help not to have this happen:
I agree even more now. At least in Lemmy when admins are abusing their power, not only are the same options that were available in reddit here as well, but they can’t hide their trace because of federated propagation of the evidence. Unfortunately, the one thing that does seem to be a thing is that no one really cares (outside of the thread) when you out them, but reddit was becoming that as well.
Any social networks that have non-censored participants are. Usually, China’s presence in social networks outside of its borders are for propaganda purposes.