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    • If facts or scientific research is not available then it is simply a normal discussion, rumour or suggestion. This is still a difference and not per-se a conspiracy.
    • Facts and conspiracy theory have nothing to with each one another, you can also spread conspiracy theories with, so-called facts that might be contradicted or debunked later based on new research evidence or on misinformation. Combining everything usually goes hand in hand, someone thinks he knows xyz and then start to spread moral panic.
    • You mix conspiracy people, as generalization term with people who deliberately spread misinformation.

    Now drop the topic, this thread here is not about conspiracy people and I am not here to explain you what it is, check Wikipedia.


  • Conspiracy

    As long as the discussions are civil and presented facts not obviously wrong, I do not see a problem.

    This contradicts itself, if something is a fact then it is not a conspiracy theory.

    I highly disagree here, I see a lot of problems spreading shit like 5G causes Covid and such discussions, they confuse others, they have no value at all and they are beyond anything. To the best of my knowledge is not a conspiracy theory discussion btw. There is a difference, this is what you actually mean.






  • I find such accusations without anything behind pretty harsh.

    EFF is not a transparent organization…

    but what they are supposed to be is an activist organisation to fight for privacy, not some political analyst on a TV show…

    Eff has some campaigns running and did so in the past. Campaign that people paid for and they were pretty transparent because they report about all won and lost battles. They have social media, you can ask and contact them over there too. Not sure what your definition of transparent is.

    • You can find absolute no organization without what you call questionable entities in it, the world is not about how perfect things should be, it is about reality and we are in a democracy, it is always about finding the best compromises that fits for everyone and not anarchy. Adding people that previously worked in e.g. Facebook, just an example does not automatically mean they negatively influence your organization, you need simply insiders, opinions and experts from both ends. I for example cannot claim X and then when someone ask me if I used it, admit nope I never did. This is not how real world works, you need to get in touch, get those people onboard and test things on your own and not what other puppets telling you.
    • If you like to smear campaign EFF and their mission feel free to open your own threat on this and then link it to them to give them a fair chance to respond. I do not like to shit-talk others behind their back. The things I express here are already expressed from myself on other platforms too, so I am no hypocrite. I also do not say everything some individuals or organizations do is what I always backup, but again we are in a democracy. If you want perfect things or a perfect world then the Internet is not for you.
    • You linked articles are not really a problem for EFF because they support privacy, we can now talk about whenever the Apple thing is good or bad for privacy but at least they try to go new ways and support - what they think - is better than the current situation. I rather would take this on Apple and not on EFF. People simply just use iOS if you like it or not and Apple tried to address some concerns, sure it is not perfect but its a small process and made some people more aware that there are currently issues.

    Can we go back to topic, I think the Cambridge thing is already over and Facebook had his worst year in 2021. I do not like hijacking threads like this. I also do not like to smear someones entire reputation based on one or two things some people did, this is not how things should be handled. Name someone without any flaws, that would be real news and a big bummer. If you dig for dirt you always find some, on every side.

    I do not backup EFF on every move they do or did, it also was only an example on who you can support with eg donations.

    Now tell me what campaigns you running as private person … oh whoops none… Full circle.



  • CHEF-KOCH@lemmy.mltoTechnology@lemmy.mlThe Web Is Fucked
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    3 years ago
    • Title is clickbait.
    • People only upvote it because admin posted it, that is all.
    • Web is not controlled by larger companies only, they might be the ones with most impact, true but they do not dictate what you should do. Face it, most people believe everything Microsoft, Google telling them no matter if it is right or wrong because they think big Corps have more credibility.
    • We have dozens of articles like this already, why write another one … What have you done to make things better… Why not list organizations like EFF who fight for us or help them to get more attention.
    • Saying things like - we cannot do much about it - without even trying to provide some solution is seriously the wrong way to motivate readers.
    • Even domain name is based and redpilled.
    • Echo chambering the same over and over again helps how … People will give up an feel helpless.

    Here is what people could do

    • Support small platforms like Lemmy, Fediverse in general.
    • Support actual organization that fight for you, such as EFF.
    • Instead of whining that web is miserable, I read this nonsense since 20+ years now, each year new clickbait … oh adblock destroys the web, oh Microsoft destroys the web, web is broken … Blah blah blah. Provide some serious solutions, because this is what will consume Brain power here. Some people actually did, created crypto and other systems that are not controlled by the big Corpos or the government.

    My opinion on the submission and Tech + Web, not meant to offend but my little review on this.