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  • Yeah I understand they were all 6th gen. My point was just that it doesn’t really make sense to blame the Dreamcast failure on its timing. Dates also matter:

    Late 98 was release in Japan
    Late 99 was release worldwide
    Early 2000 was PS2 in Japan
    Late 2000 was PS2 worldwide
    Early 2001 Dreamcast was killed
    Late 2001/Early 2002 Gamecube and Xbox

    The meme makes it look like the Dreamcast popped up late, but timing was not the reason for it’s demise at all. PlayStation dominating the market, as you mentioned, was probably the biggest one. People knew the PS2 was around the corner and the Dreamcast had barely been out in the EU by the time the PS2 was strutting it’s stuff on the Japanese market.


  • Yeah, I’m of the opinion the Saturn was the real problem. It was not a bad step forward compared to the Megadrive, but compared to the PS1 it was nowhere near as good.

    Dreamcast was a great console. It was really ahead of it’s time with a bunch of things, the VMUs, the internet connectivity, the range of peripherals and keyboard/mouse integration. It was the first console I ever got relatively near release and never regretted it.















  • That’s fair enough. I don’t really know much about the Roku TV enshittification thing other than snippets I’ve read on here.

    I’m just trying to understand why an external device would be any better (for those who still have a working TV that is). Most are made by the same type of companies who make the Smart TVs. The Walmart ONN device for example, mentioned elsewhere in the thread as a great alternative, is literally a Roku device. Forgive me for not getting it.





  • So let me get this straight, I should not connect my TV of any brand to the Internet for fear they might do something that Roku did? If Roku are trailblazers, why do you think other companies selling streaming boxes won’t also go down that path?

    Why are streaming boxes safe but not Smart TVs?

    Why do you think Roku will care that you won’t tolerate them if you are and never were going to be a customer?

    Moving the goalposts

    Absolutely ridiculous. This whole thread is about reasons to use it over the native TV. I’m honestly interested. I’ve seen no solid reasoning. [Ignoring that this was a reply to your snark that I can get it delivered instead of “going out” to get one when I was actually asking why I should and you knew I was]

    It really just seems like you’re intentionally ignoring my answers

    You’re the one ignoring me! I asked if you’re talking “like a Chromecast” because I have one of those and if that is the kind of device you’re talking about, I can compare 3 different methods of watching anything on my TV that are better in every way.

    I don’t care to go and buy another similar device without a good reason, and I was simply interested in what the landscape looks like right now.