We kindly ask everyone to engage in civil discourse and remember that not everyone will share the same opinions, which is perfectly acceptable.

It’s really actually not acceptable to ignore what a bad actor Facebook/Meta has been. Catch up on the news if you need to. Cambridge Analytica scandal, unwitting social experiments, and the insane amount of intrusive permissions required just to use threads etc. They’ve been anti-consumer in an almost dystopian way and failing to call that out is an immoral stance. There’s really no polite way to say, “that’s a hell no, fix your attitude, or I’m out.” That people have characterized folks telling you this is a deal-breaker as “blackmail” is the absurd stance here. We’re asking you to stay true to the anti-corporate “power to the people” spirit that created Lemmy in the first place and call out Meta for being an obviously bad actor in this space, as a bunch of Reddit refugees… You actually arguing against this and acting like “both sides are fine” about it is being completely tone-deaf and is 100% antithetical to the purpose of the fediverse.

“All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing.” You’ve already committed to doing nothing during an important time with a “wait and see” attitude. Meta is still a face-eating leopard, a frog-stinging scorpion, or whatever analogy does it for ya. It’s not a tough choice and there IS a right and wrong answer.

Go be an astroturfing corporate shill somewhere else.

Thank you very much :D

I posted somewhere about how that didn’t happen to me even once last Christmas :/

Same, but what is peaceful about this is not having any reason at all to give a rats what Elon Musk, Spez, or Zuck are trying to do next to wring more money out of their investments. Enjoy life as well.

Exactly, I feel like I’m taking crazy pills here. Why did people even create accounts here if not to be free from corporate enshitification?!

I came to Lemmy because a corporate douche was ruining Reddit

And now you want corporate douches to have a foothold here?! C’mon man, figure it out.

In what universe are you living in that meta does not have a history chock full of bad conduct?! Frog, meet scorpion.

Oh, and stop misusing “cringe” while you’re at it.

Honestly, the person you’re responding to has been responsible for at least half of the shitty and downvoted comments in this thread. I’m convinced the dude is a corporate shill astroturfing at this point.

I fully agree with you, but in your last sentence would insert the word “organic”…“Organic growth isn’t bad at all.” Let this grow simply because more people tell their friends about it, not because come gigantic corp wanted to connect its hive-mind interface to our new frontier to assimilate the new technology into its own before killing it.

Well said.

Meta wishes to establish Threads as the new “standard” of the Fediverse which is antithetical to the entire concept of the Fediverse, which is to resist centralized, corporate control of the platform and to remain independent, open-source, and free.

Exactly this to the point that it’s getting me increasingly annoyed that people are advocating to let Meta in. Like…wtf are you talking about, this entire Fediverse thing is exactly the opposite of Meta, and directly a result in response to corporate control of online interaction. Why in the world would we want to connect with Meta?! This is the anti-Meta, anti-Reddit, anti-Twitter.

The people who want meta content can make accounts on meta services.

EXACTLY, so kindly stop arguing with people telling you that Lemmy users should not let them into this backyard due to Meta’s history. You’re being willfully ignorant and combative here while refusing to be persuaded by the people telling you exactly why it’s a bad idea. You both don’t understand (or won’t) and are STILL arguing your point anyway.

If your arguments can’t be distinguished from legit astroturfing, then you’re obviously making terrible pro-corporate arguments on a decidedly anti-corporate platform. Read the room and take the freaking hint.

This, starting to feel a strong astroturf vibe here because 10 people upvoted the comment above you and yet nobody downvoted yours despite them being made within an hour of each other. It’s like they have bots going and upvoting each other’s pro-Meta posts. FUCK Meta and Reddit, these types of greedy CEO’s who don’t give a rats if they make the world better or worse as long as they make a buck are exactly the reason the people needed their own solution. Meta is literally the antithesis of everything decentralization is about. How the F did these people end up here if corporate control of their communication is just fine with them?

I agree, threads connecting to the fediverse seems like it would be a positive step for everyone.

How did you even end up here?

NO…the beauty of the Fediverse is that corporate interests aren’t welcome here. It’s a new frontier and you’re advocating that we extend an invite to the ones that fucked up the last frontier. Make a threads account if that’s important, you have ZERO argument for the rest of us to need the ability to connect with them from a platform specifically designed for decentralized control.

You can decide for yourself by making your own server or finding one you align with, that’s exactly how this works.

Sorry to be blunt but nobody here should give a single shit that they “can’t interact with Threads content” from Lemmy. Make an account there if you care that much. Lemmy is exactly the opposite of a corporate-controlled and monetized platform and the Fediverse is flourishing because a need arose to not let corporate fucks ruin everything they touch. If they’re your friends, you can interact with them any number of ways, send them a link however you normally talk, obviously. This is shill talk.

Interesting, mine was 5 seconds long and muted.

You’re picking out one phrase in that entire post and creating a new meaning out of it by ignoring the context.

That is…they didn’t say it’s not worth voting on whatsoever, they insinuated that if put to a vote, Meta will cheat and astroturf.