the voices all sound so soulless, what were the devs thinking?

I’m not sure if id trust the remake to have a more reasonable EULA tbh, and frankly with the originals if you want to play and don’t like the EULA i’d say pirate it, KOTOR is 20 years old now at this point.

My tastes have shifted a bit, kind of due to how bethesda has taken their games past few years. First rpg i fell in love with was new vegas, I adore that game and was really at first disappointed in how they handled fallout 4. But even though it wasn’t what I thought I wanted, fallout 4 does what it does better than any other similar game imo. That looter shooter gameplay loop with the settlements hooked me in after a little while, and now I’d rather have a game like that with complete freedom to do anything i want. It’s like comfort food for me that I can keep coming back to, don’t ask how many hours I have in fallout 4 lol.

Not to say I don’t enjoy those other games, I plan on getting baldurs gate 3 soon, my friend kind of sold me on it tonight, looks great. Outer Worlds man, I really want to enjoy but I’ve never gotten past 10 hours in save. As you said, it felt too confined for a game that gives you a freakin spaceship. You give me a spaceship, and I’m going to want to land anywhere and go anywhere, and that’s what Starfield does for me. I told a friend recently that Starfield is what I wanted Outer Worlds to be, but for the record i do fully intent to try and finish that game.

What were your favorite parts of outer worlds if i can ask?

So anyway, I found it surprising to read that you feel there aren’t enough Bethesda-like games, because it feels to me like everyone is copying them.

It’s funny you say that, cause I feel like no one else is doing what they do, atleast to the same caliber. We discussed outer worlds, other than that the only similar game I’ve really enjoyed was Kingdom Come Deliverance. That game is great, but it is pretty different, and doesn’t hold the same replay value.

At this point “Bethesda game” is its own subgenre, and many complaints about this game are complaints about the subgenre itself.

Bingo, that’s what I’m trying to say.

Well said, and yeah

Not trying to be a dick, just seems like everyone else is.

sums up how I feel about this game’s reception so far pretty well.

Feel like you’re misinterpreting what I’m saying, that statement is not to excuse bugs.

Demand better

Bro I am pleased with the game? I am having fun and I think it’s a good game, as the other guy who replied to you said my bar for this game has been either met or exceeded. I hold bethesda to the same bar as other devs, and people painting this to be as bad as the fo4 or f76 launches are just wrong from everything ive played and seen. Any bug I’ve had has been purely visual and did not hamper my gameplay, and in 20ish hours I’ve had one crash. And this is on linux even, which makes how stable the game has been even more impressive. Gameplaywise too I think it’s great fun.

you help make the entire video games industry worse.

For the record I would like more games like this one. I am the target audience for this game, I enjoy it, and if more devs made games like it I would be happy.

To comment on a few of your points,

1. IMO that really does not effect the scale of the game, it’s not limiting the amount of places you can go at all, just hop somewhere else on the planet and you’re gonna find similar things. You arent really meant to use the ship for such a small distance aswell, and the instanced wall to wall distance is really quite far for being on foot.
2. Eh, it was your choice to fast travel. They included a ton of fast travel options cause not everyone either has the time for the game otherwise or they just does not care about the flying around in space part as much. But the option to not fast travel, and to instead use your ship is there 100% of the time so I don’t understand complaining about it, it’s just a matter of choice.
3. I personally found the menus really easy to use and get used to, but I was on controller and not kbm, cant speak to how kbm feels.
4. What you are describing as a lazy intro is the exact intro that bethesda fans want in these games, quick and over with so you are quickly released into the world to figure things out on your own, it’s what bethesda does every time.

But yeah agreed on the technical aspects, except for new atlantis looking horrible. If anything looks borderline horrible for me, it’s the borderline uncanny valley faces everyone has.

I am confused by a lot of complaints about the game I’ve seen, namely “it feels barren”, “id rather have 3 good planets over the 1000 procedural generated ones”, and then theres the people with the same complaints they have every time bethesda releases something. I have seen only like 1 trailer for the game, kept away from all the press and whatnot and somehow I feel like I still had a better concept in my mind of what this game would be like than most others did? So many complaints I can just address as “it’s a bethesda space game, and this is what it’s supposed to be like”.

Many people don’t like fallout and elder scrolls, and that’s fine, but if you dislike those games why buy this one? Especially why in the hell would you PREORDER this one?

And secondly a lot of people ive seen talk about this have obviously never played a true space game before. I’ve played no mans sky, elite dangerous, empyrion, heck I’ve played most of them and they are all barren, that is the point. And if bethesda had hand crafted these planets we would have maybe idk, 5 planets id wager that we could actually explore, which is the total opposite for what bethesda wanted to do here.

So many complaints of this game I just feel are “well yeah, obviously” that I’m struggling to find the actual issues in the game. My only thing that bugs me so far is how I can’t fly around on the planets surface, and the lack of a dune buggy.

Coming from someone whos never had to play for online play, i understand it cause the main driving force for someone to get x console over p console is what their friends have. The amount of ppl who only own a playstation to play COD with their friends is staggering, and moving all their friends to pc is a big task.

I view my pc as a hobbyist’s tool, instead of solely a gaming device. It has helped me learn many things outside of gaming, all the information it can get me and all the things i can do on it are frankly overwhelming.
Totally worth what I paid for this pc, 100%.

Minecraft mob farm?

Fallout 1, 2, tactics, BOS, 3, 4, 76 (and shelter i guess?)
Dunno which you had in mind so here have them all

That bug is the only reason i ended up in this thread lol, strange

The camp system got so much flak for just existing, but yeah it is so cool. I love finding these serene spots in the middle of nowhere and just building a nice comforting home out there. One of my favorite parts of the game to be honest.

Even more impressive when you realize it was coded by one dude primarily, crazy stuff.

If you want an old classic, I’ve been playing rollercoaster tycoon 2 recently and there is an open source engine for it (openrct2) that has native linux compatibility. The controls take some getting used to, But I think that artstyle looks totally amazing.

I am grateful for what has already been achieved, it already ticks most of the boxes i needed. I hope everyone continues to be kind to yall, and thanks.

Kenshi. Kenshi is the single most unique game I have ever played I think. There is no campaign, you are just sent into one of the largest maps ive heard of in a video game with the goal of “survive”. So many ways to play, I’ve had so many different adventures in that game, with stories that I crafted that have stuck with me for years. I am still heartbroken I lost my saves from 2019 :(

Second choice is prototype. I dunno why but I just adore the shapeshifting combat, and edgy early 2000s aesthetic. Alex Mercer is one of my all time favorite supervillian/hero characters, he’s just cool, man.

I preorded the game being a huge fallout fan and played the beta before launch… then I didnt touch the game for around 2 years. When I did go back however, it was right before the big wastelanders update which introduced an entirely new campaign and human npcs to the game. I ended up getting hooked once that update dropped, and I have maybe 6-700ish hours in the game now.

It really hurts me how bethesda handled this game, because there is some real solid stuff here. I think this is the best map bethesda has ever put out (ignoring the lack of cities), it is beyond gorgeous, massive, and has real diverse biomes as well. The wastelanders campaign has some fun and interesting characters, and the story is fun enough, they also dropped the 4-choice dialogue menu from fallout 4 in favor of something more 3/vegas esque. I have had some super fun and great multiplayer interactions too, the community is very nice and it is extremely common for high lvl players to just give you stuff as you’re starting out. You do really have to enjoy the looting n shooting more than the quests to get a lot of playtime out of this game though, as a lot of it post campaign completion is just grinding.

If they had released 76 with wastelanders from the get-go, with all those embarrassing bugs gone maybe the games reputation wouldnt be so bad. I dunno. But, if you already own it, and have been avoiding it, maybe give it another shot now. It’s no Vegas, but it is infinitely better than that terrible beta was.

Kenshi’s soundtrack has such an amazing, surreal sound. Such a vibe, love it.