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  • OK, be annoyed with me then.

    What I’m saying is “if the state is going to execute people, then nitrogen asphyxiation is an excellent and humane choice, provided that the state performs the execution properly.”

    I am not saying anything beyond that. I’m not saying that this specific execution was performed properly. I wouldn’t really trust the state to say it was done right, or a reporter to day it was done wrong.

    People (and animals) can jerk and twitch when they die. They can gasp and breathe heavily even, sometimes. They are unconscious by that point if asphyxiation is done right. Look into hypoxia, there’s a ton of documentation on it, video and otherwise, including direct accounts.

    The only thing we can do to make it more humane is a: ensure the method is implemented correctly, and b: provide a choice of methods to the person to be executed.

    Of course, that’s aside from the question of whether the state is capable of correctly evaluating who should be killed in the first place.


  • Firstly, death causes twitching. And it’s not fucking pretty. Most animals, humans included, have a very wide array of stuff that their body does even after they are fully unconscious. It’s not at all surprising that bystanders were freaked out, even in ideal circumstances.

    You should really look into apoxia. When done right (and I’m not arguing that the execution in the article was done right), it’s a minute, maybe two. And that’s probably less time than you’d spend on a firing line.

    The reality is that there simply is no “perfect” way to kill someone who doesn’t want to die. We could give them a choice, possibly, but will they even choose?

    Nitrogen asphyxiation, done right, is humane. There is no pain. But one way or the other, the person’s gonna know it’s happening, no matter the method used to execute them.

    Again, none of this is to condone execution as a consequence of crime. I don’t think the state is qualified to make the call.