Microsoft as usual trying to make a Swiss Army knife where none of the tools work as intended
Is everybody really out there doing arithmetic in their start menu search bar? Calc.exe is a click or hotkey away.
Calc.exe is a click or hotkey away.
The Start Menu is already there, no hotkey setup required. Plus, I can close it with a single key too. It’s simply more convenient.
If you say so. I think having to wait for the latency of the web search to come back would drive me up the wall if I tried your method.
Win+number row are hotkeys for your taskbar favorites. No explicit setup is required other than having your taskbar favorites ordered how you want them. Pressing the hotkey will open the program if it’s closed, focus the program if it’s in the background, or minimize the program if it’s focused.
I mean technically I do that, but mine doesn’t do a web search (linux) so it’s not equivalent anyway. It is very convenient tho
There isn’t any noticeable latency. I always assumed they did that part locally tbh.
I mean no disrespect, but I have my doubts.
I’ll measure it next time I’m at my desk- on a wired gigabit connection it felt like about 80-100ms
Of course, results probably vary a bit based on how far away the closest Bing server is (or whatever is handling the request)
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You are far too powerful to be in the presence of us mere mortals.
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RPN is the best. It’s mostly just doing math in the order it would be calculated anyways, so IMO, it’s far superior for learning (which is 99% of the time any normal person uses a calculator).
My family doctor collects rare hardware RPN calculators. Its his hobby.
It sits right where you need it, between your rotary dial telephone and your filing trays 👌
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The Dad vibes are chill af 😎
Do you also use a magnifying glass?
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I grab my slide rule from my bag, because I am (mentally) a million years old.
EDIT: if I need precision, I use
bc
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Neither option is convenient for me. So I just have a calculator next to me just in case.
It’s really easy for one offs.
pin calc to taskbar. it’s a click away and makes more sense than searching for an arithmetic answer.
I prefer to use my phone, shout out Calculator++ https://f-droid.org/packages/org.solovyev.android.calculator/
Personally I use ueli for everything
That looks very very similar to PowerToys Run, I wonder if they’re related?
Since I pretty much always have a browser open I just use the search bar to do it unless I know I’m doing multiple operations, then it’s off to the pinned calculator shortcut
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Nothing like fueling the Linux circlejerk here.
Bad news bud. Windows is a circlejerk of an inferior corporate OS that people only use because of consequences of its own popularity like a marginal advantage in software support.
P.S. complaining about “circlejerks” that are based on well thought out reasons for something is really obnoxious.
I feel like the argument speaks for itself here.
lol really? Gonna switch from windows to Linux because the calculator IN THE START MENU sucks?
Jesus Christ.
Oh no, I switched when I got tired of ads shoved in my face before I’ve even logged in, long before Windows 11 was being rolled out. For me, the issues were stacking up and I just didn’t want to deal with it anymore. I’m not going to detail my issues with Windows here so all I’ll say is that I haven’t needed to log into Windows unless there’s a particular software I need to use (like Elgato or the Kinect Studio, both of which have drivers specific to Windows).
The point is, no one is switching to Linux solely because of the damn calculator in the Start Menu.
Very close to switching, started dual booting mint and I still use windows more but I imagine that’ll change when they force the 11 update on everyone
Mint is a nice one to start from so you can used to the way Linux works. I’m on Arch atm because I’m a massive control freak and wanted to have more direct control over the system.
I would check if what you regularly use can be used on Linux either with alternative software like FOSS or if you’re gaming, check whether your games use anti-cheats because that’ll be the biggest roadblock. If something you use daily isn’t possible on Linux then you’re better off not switching.
Any bug is UNACCEPTABLE. Don’t you know our Lord and Savior Linus banned the end from Linux back in 2000!
Your reason to not use windows is a web calculator?
They said another reason so that means that it is not their only reason
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You sound fun
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Skippy?
Michaelsoft Binbows
i like it that KRunner on KDE does that out of the box too, except that it doesn’t connect to the internet as a first suggestion, so it’s an upgrade :3
Same! Especially convenient cuz I’ve mapped it to my Windows key so it’s my main way to launch programs and stuff
fyi KRunner is also in the default main menu’s search bar btw :3
Not to mention it takes like 10 seconds to load and has completely random predictions
This comes from your search results. I just tried it, and for me it answers what you’d expect. I suspect you use a search system that’s either bing, based on bing, or sends queries to bing, and as a result of that it assumed you wanted to search for this specific thing.
Mind you, that makes it no less ridiculous since on the web, Bing can recognize that you put in a math query and answers it without wanting to autocomplete it. It’s still bad, just in a slightly more specific way. 😂
I did just try this again on my work laptop and it searched correctly. But the 2nd “search the web” suggestion still added a 0. Maybe I had searched that by accident by hitting enter after typing it (as it still opens Edge/Bing annoyingly).
Disable Bing in the search box on your personal computer. If you’re performing searches on your desktop, even if you don’t select a web search, it’s still being sent to Microsoft and stored.
Why the fuck do you think using search is an adequate replacement for a calculator? This is dumb.
Its slightly better than trying to use ChatGPT at least…
But Bing is powered by ChatGPT! … Or what ever their marketing material said. I try not to read marketing materials because they’re always lies and stretched truths and empty promises.
Because it’s more convenient than any other option available. Every time I’ve used it before it’s worked.
I suspect the have the . and , switched in their language preferences, so the dot would just an arbitrary separator.
Use PowerToys Run instead. The Start menu is dead to me now.
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Oh. It’s Spotlight for Linux, then.
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I have it installed already, and I’d switch to using it in a heartbeat if it could replace the Start Menu in a way that didn’t break things. I often open the Start Menu purely to show the taskbar over fullscreen games in order to switch to something else. If Run did that (and if binding it to the Windows key didn’t break other shortcuts), it would be perfect for me.
Edit: I stand corrected. It appears that Run does sometimes show the taskbar, but it seems inconsistent.
Well, I use Powertoys Run for everything except that one thing (a way to break out of full-screen games). I’d consider that switched, since you’re using that to start everything.
I don’t even shutdown via Start anymore.
Oh, and the other reason to use Start menu is to start Powertoys it doesn’t restart after an update. xD
I often open the Start Menu purely to show the taskbar over fullscreen games in order to switch to something else.
Uh,
Alt+Tab
exists.Alt tab only changes focus, it doesn’t bring up Windows specifically. When windows decides not to ACTUALLY keep the task bar on top, only going directly to it actually brings it up
Click is more than Windows key 🤷♂️
It’s a start menu, not a calculator.
Oh wait, it’s a web search?
It is showing a suggested search on the left AND the calculator with the right operation and result on the right. I’d call it confusing at best, but looks like it’s doing what it’s supposed to imo
Except it ‘recommended’ you add a zero and did it for you, changing the equation you asked it to do.
But you see, all you have to do is remove the 0 it added unprompted and you have the right answer it didnt give you.
Microsoft teaching free math skills out here by being terrible at AI.
Is this Windows?
Yeah, it’s the Start Menu in Windows 11 (though I think the same kind of thing will happen on Windows 10 too)
Thanks. I use Windows so little I didn’t at all recognise it. And my KDE start menu has had this functionality for a really long time but actually works properly lol so doubly confused if I was looking at a KDE menu themed in a weird way.
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It “autocorrect” or “auto complete” his query from “6” to “60”, so technically it’s wrong and not the answer OP looking for.
He did not get a correct answer.
People really be out here just skimming images because numbers are scary.
Wow you found a bug. Definitely don’t see those in Linux 🙄