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    9 months ago

    Your wild guess percentages based on zero evidence are not a name. You still have not given me a name. Who am I supposed to vote for if you won’t even give me a name?

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        9 months ago

        I asked for a name that has a reasonable chance of beating both Trump and Biden. I see that West has 2% support. That is not a reasonable chance, so that name is not the name I asked for.

        Also, you have contradicted yourself, because Cornel West is not a Green party candidate. Therefore, based on your previous post, he won’t have that (evidence-free) 99% chance of winning.

        Odd that this name for a candidate that can win is so hard for you to come up with.

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          Donald Trump. he has a high percentage chance to win.

          That’s what you’re looking for right? Someone with a high win percentage?

          Or are you looking for someone that endorses your views with a win percentage? I hear Joe Biden endorses Genocide, do you endorse genocide?

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            9 months ago

            Nope, this is what I have asked you for multiple times:

            Please name the third party candidate that has a reasonable chance of beating both Trump and Biden.

            If there is no candidate that has such a chance, why bother voting?

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              9 months ago

              Because if the amount of voters for a different candidate increases then it will be noticed. It will do two things:

              • Force the Dems to move back more to the left actually to win back those votes

              • The next time around people will consider it a more viable option.

              Asking for them to win directly is basically a catch22.

              If you keep voting Democrat now you very explicitly endorse that you are content with their current policies.

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                9 months ago

                That didn’t happen with Perot or Nader. I find it very hard to believe that would happen this time.

                Why can’t you just admit that you can’t give me a name?

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                  9 months ago

                  If you don’t want to vote for someone who doens’t have a chance of winning then just stay home

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                    9 months ago

                    I didn’t say anyone should stay home.

                    I said:

                    If there is no candidate that has such a chance, why bother voting?

                    You have not given me a good reason. Your reason so far is not supported by history. Neither Perot nor Nader changed a thing. Unless you can give me a good reason why that will be different this time around, you are grasping at straws.

                    If you want to vote, fine. Go ahead. I just don’t see why you’re bothering when you can’t even give a good reason. Seems like a lot of effort for nothing.

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                9 months ago

                Force the Dems to move back more to the left actually to win back those votes

                The opposite happens when Democrats lose. Republicans become emboldened and pull us right. Tea Party in 2010, Trump in 2016. The biggest right wing swings in modern US politics.

                If you don’t vote Democrat, you still endorse contentment with their policies. Not voting is a statement that you’re content with whoever wins – or, that you’re so privileged it doesn’t matter who wins.

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                  9 months ago

                  Obama was probably the largest swing right, blatantly bailing out the big banks and going HAM on imperialism.

                  The DNC are the ones that tried to promote Trump because they thought it’d be an easy score for Hillary so you can thank the Democrats for that one too. And for screwing over Bernie of course.

                  Not voting is a statement that you’re content with whoever wins

                  I don’t think that’s how it works.

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                    9 months ago

                    If you’re telling me that you think Obama was a larger swing the right than Trump was, I think we’ve once again exhausted all constructive discussion between us.