• muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    What an excellent presedent to set cant possibly see how this is going to become authoritarian. Ohh u didnt report someone ur also guilty cant see any problems with this.

    • KoboldCoterie@pawb.social
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      7 months ago

      Ohh u didnt report someone ur also guilty cant see any problems with this.

      That’s… not what this is about, though?

      “However, plaintiffs contend the defendants’ platforms are more than just message boards,” the court document says. “They allege they are sophisticated products designed to be addictive to young users and they specifically directed Gendron to further platforms or postings that indoctrinated him with ‘white replacement theory’,” the decision read.

      This isn’t about mandated reporting, it’s about funneling impressionable people towards extremist content.

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        7 months ago

        Youtube Shorts is the absolute worst for this. Just recently it’s massively trying to push transphobic BS at me, and I cannot figure out why. I dislike, report and “do not recommend this channel” every time, and it just keeps shoving more at me. I got a fucking racist church sermon this morning. it’s broken!

        • VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works
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          7 months ago

          Don’t dislike it just hit do not recommend, also don’t open comments - honestly the best way is just to skip past as fast as you can when you set one, the lower time with it on your screen YNt less the algo thinks you want it.

          I never really see that on YouTube unless I’ve been on related topics recently and it goes pretty quick when you don’t interact. Yes it’s shifty but they’re working on a much better system using natural language with an llm but it’s a complex problem

      • muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world
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        7 months ago

        U can make any common practice and pillar of capitalism sound bad by using the words impressionable and extremist.

        If we remove that it become: funnelling a market towards the further consumption of your product. I.e. marketing

        And yes of cause the platforms are designed to be addictive and are effective at indoctranation but why is that only a problem for certain ideologies shouldnt we be stopping all ideologies from practicing indoctranation of impressionable people should we not be guiding people to as many viewpoints as possible to teach them to think not to swallow someone elses ideas and spew them back out.

        I blame Henry Ford for this whole clusterfuck he lobbied the education system to manufacture an obedient consumer market and working class that doesnt think for itself but simply swallows what its told. The education system is the problem anything else is treating the symptoms not the disease.

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        7 months ago

        That means that the government is injecting itself on deciding what “extremist” is. I do not trust them to do that wisely. And even if I did trust them, it is immoral for the state to start categorizing and policing ideologies.

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          7 months ago

          Do you understand you’re arguing for violent groups instigating a race war?

          Like, even if you’re ok with white people doing it, you’re also saying ISIS, MS13, any fucking group can’t be labeled violent extremists…

          Some “ideologies” need to be fucking policed

          • muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world
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            7 months ago

            Ur missing the point violence should absolutly be policed. Words ideas ideology hell no let isis, ms13, the communists, the nazis, the vegans etc etc etc say what they want. They are all extremists by some definition let them discuss let them argue and the second someone does something violent lock em for the rest of their lives simple.

            What you are suggesting is the policing of ideology to prevent future crime their is an entire book about where that leads to said book simply calls this concept thought crime.

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            7 months ago

            Some “ideologies” need to be fucking policed

            Someone wants to start with yours, and they have more support than you know. Be careful what you wish for.

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                7 months ago

                Big difference between policing actions and policing thoughts. Declaring some thoughts as verboten and subject to punishment or liability is bad.

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                  7 months ago

                  It’s insane you’re being downvoted by people who would be the first ones silenced.

                  You really think they’re going to use this for himophobes and racists instead of anyone calling for positive socia6 change?

                  Did you not see any of history?