• Zyansheep@lemmy.ml
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    Change My View: Its not the business owner’s fault that they can’t pay enough wages to hire enough people. It is the landowners and land speculators fault for raising the rent / price of land to the point where the businessowers don’t have enough money to pay.people because all their revenue is going to the landowners. I believe we need a land value tax to fix this issue.

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        Sure, but at least companies can be competed with and if they get too big, are subject to government scrutiny. On the other hand, its really hard to control a large population of landowners and speculators who have a personal incentive to do whatever they can to increase the perceived price of their owned land.

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          This is a very Polyannaish take and places way too much faith in a “free market” and government oversight. There is no free market when we are regularly allowing companies to get massive and become practical monopolies. When was the last time a company faced serious repercussions for getting too big?

          There is certainly some more competition among smaller, local businesses. And the price of land/real estate can be an issue for them. But I would also ask to see how much the business owner is making in relation to their employees.

          All that being said, I would like to see landownership completely overhauled, if not abolished.

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      OK I hear you on redistributing weath from landlords, but how do we keep the landlords from passing that tax on to their tenants?

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        If landlords don’t want to hemorrhage money by not having a paying tenant on their land, they will lower their prices. The problem with land is that we can’t create more of it. It is not a commodity supply can be artificially restricted to the detriment of the rest of society. If land holders constantly lost money for not having their land generate wealth, there would be no incentive to artificially reduce supply.

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      It’s the fault of capitalism. In socialist theory, a distinction is (generally, since there are always many schools of thought) made between the Bourgeoisie, basically the ultra rich at the very top like Musk and Bezos, and the Petty Bourgeoisie, which is your average restaurant owner and such. The former is what we refer to when we say things like “down with the Bourgeoisie,” we’re not actually dreaming of sticking the manager of the McDonald’s down the street in a guillotine. The Petty Bourgeoisie are also chained into capitalism like the workers.

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      It’s actually no one’s fault per se that useful land is more expensive. After 2008 there was a major lack of investment into housing that reared its ugly head around 2019. COVID amplified the existing problems making it harder to build and get materials, and created soaring inflation.

      There are things we can do now such as change zoning and make permit times faster but it’s going to take a while even in a best case scenario to move the housing stock and commercial real estate supply to where it needs to be.

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        I think a land value tax would speed up the process of building more houses, and would make housing denser because owners of the land would be incentivised to build as many houses as possible to not loose money to the land value tax.