Not saying that our mods here aren’t doing a great job! Just the opposite! I think they are doing a phenomenal job! However, as users we should keep an eye on the logs to make sure power is kept in check. You can always view the modlog at the bottom of your browser window!

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    One of the best things about open source software - there is no need to hide useful information from your user base. A concept largely forgotten in today corporate hemisphere.

    As you mentioned, I think the mods have done a fantastic job given the learning curve and lack of mod tools. This is just a good tool for accountability and transparency. Keep it up!

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      there is no need to hide useful information from your user base

      yet only the instance admins can see my total karma point sum while I can’t. It seems this has been removed to prevent “karma farming”. I don’t get it.

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        I thought it wasn’t available to anyone, but why would you want to view it? I never felt the karma system added much to reddit except the aforementioned karma farmers

        I’m not really for or against it though

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          I thought it wasn’t available to anyone

          Instance admins have the database and up/downvotes are stored there. Even if they don’t see it directly in the UI, it’d be trivial to extract the data with a simple db query.

          I never felt the karma system added much to reddit

          The important part: Reward/Penalty is vital for social network adoption. While it’s not vital to anyone, it’s the only way to check, well, your karma (in relation to other users) at a single glance.

          Also people are dopamine driven. I honestly doubt that even you weren’t even a bit happy when you saw a post getting many upvotes additional to positive feedback. Or maybe surprised, when you suddenly lost a lot of karma for some comment you did with best intents. It’s quite hard to check every past comment/post, so the total sum makes sense.

          Also it’s a good mechanism (not perfect for sure) to assess a user. E.g. some subreddits had a minimum karma limit required for posting/commenting. This led to karma farming and made it A LOT harder for bots or trolls with a gazillion accounts.

          I’m not really for or against it though

          Fair enough. I’m solid pro. We already use karma to sort posts and the data is there - just hidden. The upsides weigh heavier for me than the downsides.

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        Honestly, while I could care less about karma, this is likely just due to the infancy of the software. You had 2 people working on this for ~3 years, and in three days their user base increased 10x. It’s not like they were given time to prepare (thanks spez). These things will be worked out, we just have to be patient. It is worth the wait for federation.