• zhozers@lemmy.world
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    15 days ago

    Democrats: “Vote for Harris if you want to save the country from Trump and the Republicans!” Also Democrats: “We need a strong Republican party and we love the Cheney’s!” The Left: “WTF is going on?”

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      14 days ago

      I don’t really understand your issue… She doesn’t “love” them, she’s just associating with them. Are you so drunk on Trump’s bullshit that you think we should seek only division?

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        14 days ago

        20 years ago it was Bush and the Cheneys that were so bad we would have been told to vote for anyone running Blue.

        Can’t wait to vote for the Democratic candidate in 2048 based on the idea that they’ll only conscript first-born children into mandatory asteroid farming and have Barron Trump’s enforcement over Megahitler.

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          14 days ago

          I can’t see it being more affordable to use humans to farm asteroids than machines. Life support systems seem expensive long term. That said, I also can’t think of a resource that would be worth mining off planet in that time frame.

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            14 days ago

            granted, I should have given more thought to my hyperbolic hypothetical.

            point being I dread to think what “lesser evil” we’re looking at when the time comes

  • BougieBirdie@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    16 days ago

    Isn’t how somebody votes one of the only things you can ethically criticize someone for?

    Like, people often treat their party like it’s part of their tribe, but it’s not like you’re born into it. It’s not the same thing as race, colour, creed, gender, orientation, or any other prohibited grounds.

    Voting is exercising a choice. If you can’t criticize someone because of the choices they make, what can you criticize them for?

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      16 days ago

      She literally just called Trump a fascist. But like, I guess supporting fascists is like just one of those “agree to disagree” matters that shouldn’t be held against someone? They can still be good people who just want mass deportations, military tribunals of political enemies, and for trans people to just cease to exist.

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    15 days ago

    Lol, no distance on support for genocide, but criticizing people voting for someone she herself called a fascist is out of bounds.

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    If she honestly believes that she’s an idiot, and if she doesn’t she’s way too comfortable with lying to the American people about important issues. The truth of the matter is that if a person has supported the Republican party in the last five decades they are dangerous garbage, and unless they’re willing to put in the work to recycle themselves into something more positive we need to contain them and have their toxicity diluted to the point where it can’t hurt anyone, just like we would with any other waste. Elected Dems ignoring this difficult but painfully obvious truth is why our politics have kept getting worse as the Republicans have gotten crazier and faced no consequences for it.

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        14 days ago

        I mean I hate the Cheneys more than most people on Lemmy, which believe me has come as quite a shock to see how popular they are on here, but even I wouldn’t describe them as magas.

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    16 days ago

    She’s just trying to avoid Hillary’s deplorables comment. It’s true, of course, and you should absolutely cut those people from you life, but it was misconstrued and so could this.

    Although, Kamala really wants a “Not all Republicans” message, so there’s that too. No use alienating those snowflakes so close to Election Day.

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      Would you cut out your own family members over voting choices?

      Edit: not sure why am I getting downvoted, I’m genuinely curious, not a suggestive question

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        Not over John McCain or Mitt Romney, but over cunty fatson? Yeah obviously. No nazis is a pretty easy life rule to agree on.

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        You will notice that it is usually Democrats who have no qualms with cutting ties with their families over trivial ideological differences.

        Incidentally, it’s also Democrats who complain to no end that they have no familial support system (through absolutely no fault of their own), and society now OWES them that support structure by way of “GIVE ME YOUR MONEY! I DESERVE IT MORE THAN YOU!!”

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          You will notice that it is usually Democrats who have no qualms with cutting ties with their families over trivial ideological differences.

          Because the “trivial” ideological differences aren’t a two-way street. Democrats want people to be able to live as they want. Republicans are working to exterminate certain groups. As a conservative-passing liberal, (I’m pale enough to pass for white, and work in a conservative-biased industry), it’s really really hard to stay friends with conservatives; They’ll inevitably get too comfortable and drop an N-word because they think I’m safe. Or they’ll call one of our mutual BIPOC friends “one of the good ones” like it’s supposed to be a compliment.

          In short, liberals aren’t an existential threat to conservatives. Liberals may have an issue with some of conservatives’ choices, but “owning guns” isn’t something inherent to your personhood. You aren’t born with a gun in your hand, and you won’t immediately die without a gun. On the other hand, conservatives are an existential threat to liberals, because they take issue with innate traits, rather than their individual choices. You can’t choose to be black, but conservatives will judge you for it regardless.

          One side is saying “I’d like people to exist without judgement” and the other is saying “you don’t have the basic human right to exist.” And then the latter makes fun of the former when the former cuts ties.

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    15 days ago

    Trump voters are not garbage, most of them are frankly just ignorant and maybe a little dull. Calling Trump supporters garbage on the other hand would be an insult to garbage

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      13 days ago

      At what point is the ignorance a choice? Most of us have the wealth of knowledge the internet provides in our pocket.

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    14 days ago

    Dear Kamala: they don’t care what you think. You’re the bogeyman.