• RQG@lemmy.world
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    I always found the rules about public drinking in the US to be more strange than the drinking age.

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      Depends on the area, there are some where it’s legal to drink outside as long as it’s from a local business

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    Ah, yes, Germany! The land where there are no alcohol issues because everybody is by default drunk.

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    Grew up in South America and underage drinking, though illegal in theory, is pretty much the norm.

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        Most people I knew started in college. 15 is a bit young. Only knew a handful of partiers who drank in high school.

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          As a non-American, every single American teenage movie I’ve ever watched tells me this is untrue.

          I mean getting alcohol for an underage party is the whole plot of Superbad.

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            As an American emigrant: the red cups are real, but not limited to house parties; alcohol is a lot less accessible, so the party would be more likely to have four different kinds of liqueur from peoples parents or three handles of paint cleaner; getting the cops called on an underage party is serious. Like, potentially lose your job and home serious, even if you were gone for the weekend.

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            It is untrue. You can go to any highschool and find giant parties happening several times a year. It happens at multiple schools, kids travel to the next school over, and they will typical be 100s of kids at these things.

            Maybe it’s changing with gen z but the overwhelming majority of American high schoolers in the 90s and 00s were having drinks from time to time and party.

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        Interesting. I’m in Australia now and people here actually do respect the law when it comes to drinking. If you are under 18, it’s unlikely you will be able to buy alcohol or get into a nightclub etc. It would be shocking to hear someone got pissed drunk at 15, whereas where I come from that isn’t the case.

        From OPs post I presumed US would be more like Australia in that regard, but, I take your word

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          That might be more to do with your social circles. There was a shit ton of teenage drinking happening when I was in high-school.

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            Might be a thing of social circles. For middle working class in NSW, personally, I’ve found it’s not the norm in my circles and I might say it’s also not the norm for even wealthier people- but I don’t rub shoulders with these crowds a lot. I’m sure it happens though.

            My experience elsewhere was that underage drinking was actually the norm across any backgrounds.

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          I lived in Straya my whole life. I remember being 12 and my 13 year old buddy getting fucking drunk as hell on his dads beers during a massive party. It was a rural area though.

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          With the exception of fake IDs, I don’t know if anyone getting into nightclubs or most bars. Occasionally there’ll be a shitty gas station that’ll sell kids beer, but they get shut down pretty quick. It’s mainly kids getting drunk with other kids in garages, at house parties, in the woods, et cetera, because one of them has an older brother, or is dating an older person or something.

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    By the time Germans turn 18 (legal age for stronger alcoholic beverages) most of them already know their limit and party with more responsibility in my opinion.

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      I feel like that’s mostly a feelgood myth. Like for every person who handles their drink responsibly and started drinking young it produces like 10 functioning alcoholics. This countrys relationship to alcohol is fucked up

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        At least most of me and my friends did. We still drink, but way way way way less. I feel like 21 or around there we the time we hit that responsibility.

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    Meanwhile in Sweden, the National Board of Health and Welfare changed their guidelines in regards to drinking:

    "Risky drinking now means drinking any of the following:

    • 10 standard glasses or more per week.

    • 4 standard glasses or more per drinking occasion (so-called intensive consumption) once a month or more often."

    True story!

    https://www.socialstyrelsen.se/kunskapsstod-och-regler/regler-och-riktlinjer/nationella-riktlinjer/riktlinjer-och-utvarderingar/levnadsvanor/

    Google translate:

    https://www-socialstyrelsen-se.translate.goog/kunskapsstod-och-regler/regler-och-riktlinjer/nationella-riktlinjer/riktlinjer-och-utvarderingar/levnadsvanor/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=sv&_x_tr_pto=wapp

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      Same in Denmark. It was 15 until recently. We also held the record for teenage drinking for a long time, and still hold “most average alcohol per session” or something.

      Yet we are statistically one of the “happiest” countries in the world. And take the most antidepressants!

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      Also in Sweden: if your 5 year old and her friends wants to do vodka shots for their tea party, you can just go ahead and pour some for them.

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      It’s actually quite hard to buy alcohol in Sweden. You can’t buy it in a regular supermarket you have to go to a special shop, that is open at different times, etc. And it’s expensive.

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        Expensive is relative. Systembolaget is so huge that they have incredible deals with certain vendors and makers. I know fo a fact that most single malt whisky from scotland are cheaper to buy from systembolaget as compared to a Tax Free shop abroad. Beer and (usually)cheap wine however is pretty expensive due to the added alcohol tax.

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          From what I remember it was even 2,5%. Really bad surprise when you take your first sip in the camping and you just wanted to enjoy a beer after 2 weeks in the wilderness.

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            I checked, it’s “II beer”, 3,5%. I’ve had one for a serious hangover but it was shit even for that

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        Same in Iceland. Was wandering around the supermarket looking for some, and the wife eventually said “no, it’s from a special shop”. Which was closed. Because why would anybody want to buy alcohol after 5pm?

        Went there the next day, the four-pack seemed about the right price so went to buy that, and the wife again went, “no, that’s per can”. The special shop just splits multipacks.

        I can only assume all the alcoholics get their booze via dodgy sources, because there’s no way they’d be able to afford to be perma-twatted at those prices.

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            I was in Ísafjörður and theirs was open most days for a normal working day.

            Either Ísafjörður has more drunks than most towns, or Seyðisfjörður is like the Icelandic equivalent of the village in The Wicker Man.

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        The result of this is that all drinking Swedes just have a huge storage of alcohol at home though.

        They also frequently drive all the way to Germany (through Denmark) to shop duty-free drinks in bulk.

        Scandinavian countries have “pant” on bottles and cans, meaning you pay extra for the container, but get the money back when you return it empty.

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        This is inevitable, but they cannot buy it themselves in a store. The owner risks having his store closed and having to pay a large fine if he sells alcohol to minors.

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    Clever meme. The drink in hand works so well that you wonder whether the caption came before the image or vice versa.

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      Funny story about that.

      When I was a kid, 15+ years ago, my parents told me about somebody that did that here in Texas with their son.

      The father took his underage son to a restaurant and was able to get him a beer. During the meal, the father went to the bathroom and the son took a drink of his beer. A cop was sitting nearby and arrested the kid for underage drinking because the father wasn’t in the presence of the son so it was no longer “supervised”.

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    As an American, I can assure you no 16 year old has much trouble procuring alcohol. I certainly didn’t. By the time I was 21 the novelty had worn off