• return2ozma@lemmy.worldOP
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    Sadly, I don’t think Trump supporters care about the felon status at all. If anything, I think it makes them think it’s some “deep state conspiracy” to stop Trump.

    The educational system in the US has failed many.

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      Sadly, I don’t think Trump supporters care about the felon status at all

      If they did they wouldn’t be supporters.

      It’s those who are undecided or on the fence Biden’d be hoping to sway.

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        If someone’s dumb enough to still be undecided or on the fence at this point, they should probably be forcibly sterilized by the state, because that’s a section of the gene pool that needs some chlorine.

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          Bro wtf, I think it’s dumb not to vote too but you’re gonna call for eugenics? Even in the most generous interpretation where that’s a joke, you’ve gotta realize how bad a look that is.

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            FFS, I’m not actually advocating for eugenics. I’m saying those people are dumbfucks and probably spreading their dumbfuckery to their kids.

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              FFS, I’m not actually advocating for eugenics.

              Perfect, then we’re on the same page. So in the future, when you don’t mean it, just don’t say it. The more civil we can keep the conversation, the more likely we are to have any kind of useful discussion and actual understanding.

              Also, this part:

              I’m saying those people are dumbfucks and probably spreading their dumbfuckery to their kids.

              That’s still doubling down on the previous statement… It’s not really more productive.

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      I have seen at least one person wearing an “I’m voting for the convicted felon” shirt with that picture of the mugshot where you just know he practiced trying to look cool but for some reason settled on “toddler intentionally shitting their pants because you told them it was time for bed” as his expression

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      Here’s a quick anecdotal dose for you. I was talking to my dad about this, and while this is still a false equivalence, it may shine some light into someone who claims they hate Trump but are voting for him anyway:

      Me: “So you’re just okay with a convicted felon holding office? With his talks of being a dictator for a day?”

      Dad: “Him being convicted in New York is the same thing as Joe Biden being convicted in Florida with a MAGA judge and a MAGA court.”

      Me: “Well it would be if Joe Biden had a business registered in Florida and it committed fraud.”

      Dad: “Its the same thing.”

      The answer is tribalism. We’ve seceded too much ground to the likes of Murdoch and Sinclair. Free to run their ever expanding bubbles as if it were the sole truth of the world. Americans lack critical information gathering skills, and these political sectors lobbed out of the media industry only serves to divide those who cannot discern for themselves. He didn’t even mention how paying for sex from those funds and hiding it is illegal, that doesn’t matter to him.

      There will be bloodshed this November. The olive branch has withered and died, and then burnt to ash and buried. You can no longer reach across the isle without giving extremists everything they want. And extremists have taken over an entire political wing of our government. Extremists own the Supreme Court.

      Get ready ozma cause you were right. If the people dont step up and do something Biden is going to fumble this election and then it will be the last. Whether its a dictatorship, climate catastrophe, or any of the myriad ways the Republicans are planning to fuck the Republic. We’re Julius Cesar himself, blissfully unaware of what awats us in the Senate.

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        “Yes and if Biden was convicted in Florida he wouldn’t be fit for office either, he hasn’t been convicted in Florida, so what then?”

        You fell right in his trap.

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        Get ready ozma cause you were right. If the people dont step up and do something Biden is going to fumble this election and then it will be the last.

        I know I’ll get downvoted for this but it’s like the Biden administration isn’t even trying. For them saying it’s the end of democracy, they sure aren’t going at 110% to defeat Trump.

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          They just need to be louder about it all their successes on mainstream media and again not all of their policies will be in place until Biden is possibly out. So we won’t see the result until the bastard is in charge again. Its all one big vicious cycle. We are right where they want us. Its time to get crazy.

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      They don’t care now. But if we keep chanting it, I think some will eventually get swayed. The hard core racist reject types, no. But the Facebook Karen types - maybe.