Josseli Barnica grieved the news as she lay in a Houston hospital bed on Sept. 3, 2021: The sibling she’d dreamt of giving her daughter would not survive this pregnancy.

The fetus was on the verge of coming out, its head pressed against her dilated cervix; she was 17 weeks pregnant and a miscarriage was “in progress,” doctors noted in hospital records. At that point, they should have offered to speed up the delivery or empty her uterus to stave off a deadly infection, more than a dozen medical experts told ProPublica.

But when Barnica’s husband rushed to her side from his job on a construction site, she relayed what she said the medical team had told her: “They had to wait until there was no heartbeat,” he told ProPublica in Spanish. “It would be a crime to give her an abortion.”

For 40 hours, the anguished 28-year-old mother prayed for doctors to help her get home to her daughter; all the while, her uterus remained exposed to bacteria.

Three days after she delivered, Barnica died of an infection.

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    I wouldn’t “want” that, and besides, the law would have allowed that in this case. This is a simple medical mistake, the likes of which was the third leading cause of death in 2018.

    And far more human beings die when abortions are legal. You can “reframe” that however you want it, but that’s a fact. Unless you’d like to argue that fetuses/babies aren’t human? Or are you going to apply an arbitrary standard of “personhood” to protect your genocidal ideas?

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      You can call abortion access a genocide, but that doesn’t make it true.

      You can try to reframe the issue, as many reactionaries do, but you should be aware that the Nazis also restricted abortion for “aryans”:

      A pregnancy must not be interrupted! Beware of advice and interventions from unqualified people!

      It’s about controlling women for patriarchal purposes, and you’re helping that cause.

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          Leave it to reactionaries to confuse healthcare with genocide.

          I’ve already told you that autonomous people should get to choose what to do with their bodies. That’s clearly not a value that you hold, and want to give a fetus extra rights above and beyond the person upon whose body they depend.

          You wouldn’t need to give a reason to disconnect the person attached to you by the kidney; it’s your body to decide to share or not.

          You can try to reframe the issue, but the facts are clear.

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            Tell me, how is killing innocent people healthcare? If a human being isn’t a person, then what is? If killing innocent people isn’t wrong, then why do we outlaw murder?

            So born babies aren’t people either? They’re not very autonomous. Nor are comatose people.

            You’re reframing the issue to justify killing millions of people every year. Why? It’s not like those lives magically appear in a faraway land on earth once they’re ended in the United States.

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              18 days ago

              how is killing innocent people healthcare

              They’re not killing people, that’s how

              You’re reframing the issue

              Projection, as usual

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                So if they’re not people, then what are they? Can you define what a person is without it being completely arbitrary?

                Projection, as usual

                Says the guy calling me a Nazi because I hate genocide.

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                  So if they’re not people, then what are they?

                  Fetus. Could grow into a person if nothing goes wrong and the mother wants it to, could end up as a really heavy period after a week. Welcome to basic biology, since you missed it in school

                  Says the guy calling me a Nazi because I hate genocide.

                  I didn’t call you anything, learn to read. Also: not a genocide. Your kind best stop trying to dilute the value of that word by applying it incorrectly

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                    How is a fetus not a person? Every human being is a person. Sticking with an extremely broad definition of person is the only way to prevent a slippery slope towards justifying killing people further and further along in development. Trying to call certain human beings not people is a genocidal tactic.