Summary
Asian American groups are preparing for potential deportations of undocumented Chinese nationals, particularly military-age men, under Trump’s proposed immigration policies.
Sources indicate Chinese nationals may be prioritized due to alleged national security concerns, reflecting broader anti-China sentiment.
Community organizations are creating multilingual resources, coordinating legal support, and educating families on their rights.
Trump’s rhetoric ties Chinese immigrants to fears of espionage, intensifying anxieties.
Advocates highlight the historical targeting of minority groups during national security crises and warn of significant impacts on vulnerable communities, urging solidarity and swift action.
particularly military-age men
And give China more people to wage war against America with? Sounds like a great plan! (/s obviously)
Just to add it to the MOUNTAIN of IToldYaSo I am saving up. If you are a LEGAL immigrant, make plans, you might become illegal over night. These people are insane and vile, protect yourself.
Even if you were born here, he wants to revoke citizenship from second-generation immigrants too.
Yeah, that is even more insane. Removing birthright citizenship is just sick.
How far back does he want to go, exactly?
Far enough to create an ethnostate, probably.
Correct, he’s going to revoke both his own and his kid’s citizenship.
The British thought immigrants would be deported after the Brexit too. But then they quickly realized they form the backbone of some of the critical sectors like hospitality, logistics, construction etc. So they quietly pretended like nothing ever happened.
Here in the US, undocumented immigrants form the backbone of food production (agriculture and meat processing) and restaurants, such that mass deportations would cause unimaginable inflation in food prices. I want to think that means the Republicans won’t actually do it, but I thought they wouldn’t actually overturn Roe v. Wade either.
In fact, there’s a wealthy municipality here where I live that made rules that houses could only be built by individuals with a very niche paperwork, or something. The details allude me. At it’s core, it was a xenophobic move to block “illegals” from being able to do their work, by “taking care of our own first”.
The issue was there was literally none of “our own”.
What I will remember however, is that no construction was able to happen for almost a whole year. The municipality had to repeal that rule to get construction started again. The ignorance and vast stupidity of the conservatives/regressionists never ceases to amaze me.
Also construction contracting too. Get your roof replaced and you will see crews of very efficient Latinos doing the work.
Shipping
Like half or more of truckers are foreigners of some kind, usually Mexican or Indian
TBF roofing companies also rely heavily on ex-felons, so they’re well-positioned to survive mass deportations.
This sentence caused me to imagine a scene where Trump is tiling roofs. He is not even a felon yet (I think?) but I will keep my hopes up.
Yeah, and the Brexit vote fucked us. Being in the EU was great. Anyone could see that leaving wasn’t going to make much difference to immigration.
It made some difference, but the racists really self-owned on that one by making the country outwardly hostile to generally white EU migrants.
This was quickly followed by an uptick in not white, non EU migrants that the casual racist abhors.
Particularly evident in NHS recruitment with EU recruits stagnating and African/Asian recruits increasing.
Aside from that, the vote has pretty much fucked us all for a couple of generations minimum. Put to vote, I would gladly rejoin, even at the expense of the Pound. We’ll never see the almost 2:1 buying power against the Dollar ever again anyway.
We’ll never see the almost 2:1 buying power against the Dollar ever again anyway.
You have every reason to be optimistic here as it remains to be seen what Trump will do to the dollar.
We’re certainly in the midst of an interesting decade, to say the least.
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
—Martin Niemöller
My dad remarried a China-nese lady after my mom passed away. He voted for Trump in 2020 and 2024. I love this lady like my own mom, but the leopard is coming in to eat soon.
Doesn’t that mean she is at least a legal resident, if not a US citizen? Either way, if she’s married to a US citizen then she isn’t undocumented.
if she’s married to a US citizen then she isn’t undocumented
Untrue. It depends on how long you were out of status and what sort of status you had in the first place. If you never had a visa in the first place you really are shit out of luck and can only apply for a green card after you self deport (which may get you a 10 year ban on reentry after you so it).
https://www.boundless.com/faqs/overstayed-visa-marriage-consequences/
https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/document/guides/A2en.pdf
In the 1930s, over a third of all deportations were actually American citizens.
One of Trump’s campaign promises was to increase legal immigration, along with deporting undocumented immigrants. This isn’t the 1930s. Stop doomscrolling and get some fresh air.
There’s some nuance to what you just said that you’re ignoring.
When Trump talks about legal immigration, he literally uses the words “from the right places.” He’s not talking legal immigration from Mexico. He’s talking from Sweden, Finland, Germany, etc. I’ll let you guess what those three countries have in common.
“One of Trump’s campaign promises…”
Lol, lmao even.
He wouldn’t have promised it if his voters weren’t OK with it. Not saying he’ll keep his word, but it gives insight to the state of the Republican party. Some people on Lemmy seem to think he’s literally Hitler. He’s not, even if he turns out to be just as bad. He’ll find his own way to fuck shit up, so don’t expect an exact repeat of history.
Some people on Lemmy seem to think he’s literally Hitler. He’s not, even if he turns out to be just as bad.
So let me get this straight, when you hear people say Trump is “literally Hitler” you think they’re saying he’s actually the original real-life Adolf Hitler, somehow still alive, clean shaven, wearing a Trump disguise? Is that what you’re saying right now?
You don’t think that people actually just mean history is repeating itself, and Trump could turn out to be just as bad? That’s not what you think people mean?
Also to anyone saying “well how can they deport a citizen when the other country won’t take them since they’re not one of their citizens?”
That’s the point…. They’ll stay locked up in internment camps because the US “is looking into their citizenship status” and they’ll stay there for an indefinite time.
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Call them what they are. Concentration camps.
And I’ve been saying the same thing. In fact, treaties will have to be negotiated with a lot of those countries even if they will be willing to take those citizens back. They can’t just land a bunch of C-130s in Shanghai and push all the undocumented Chinese immigrants out onto the tarmac.
These people will be interred for a long time. In concentration camps.
“Then what happens when those get too full?”
Guess what happened in Germany.
My money is on them building more camps instead. The prison industrial complex would be very unhappy about slaves going to waste.
In Germany Nazis literally worked them to death (Vernichtung dutch Rabbit)
Typo too weird to fix it
I’m assuming it’s autocorrect, but there were no Dutch rabbits involved. It’s Vernichtung durch Arbeit, extermination through work.
Arbeit Macht Frei.
Hollandische Kaninchen Macht Frei
Rabbits were put in ovens
The rabbits were actually skinned cats.
Because what’s cheaper than even undocumented immigrants labor? Prison labor.
I don’t think that’s true. Imprisoned people have to have their basic needs met by the state (food, shelter, clothing, etc.). People outside prison have to provide that themselves.
Except the people renting the labor don’t have to pay for any of that.
I don’t think gruel and mass-produced orange jumpsuits are going to set them back too far
They should know, private prison stocks went up on his winning the election. But after the misinformation and willing ignorance in display, I’m not surprised they don’t.
i always knew chin yang was a terrorist
That’s a lot of Asian faces (39%) for these leopard to eat.
Wouldn’t be surprised if they try to strip Asian American citizens, naturalized or natural born, of their citizenship either.
I’ve figured it out! This is all a program to save the endangered Amur leopard!
They’re going to ship them back to Asia as leopard food!
Jesus Christ, every thread about deportations has some moron talking about leopards.
Undocumented immigrants can’t vote. I hate to take away whatever satisfaction you’re getting from human suffering here, but it is categorically not “leopards eating faces”.
Is that 39% the percentage of Asian Americans who voted for Trump? I bet most of those are rich enough that they don’t have to worry. What percentage of your demographic voted Republican? Do you deserve to be punished for them?
The world isn’t just and these people aren’t getting what they deserve. Put this energy into volunteering for organizations trying to help people. We have to stick together to get through the next four years.
IANAL, but for natural born the only realistic scenario with the current legal setup is accusing them of treason and finding them guilty.
Project 2025 includes doing away with naturalization, and I believe might even go as far as revoking citizenship from previously naturalized citizens (only when it suits them, of course).
Key word being current. Remember that Republicans will control all three branches of government, including both houses of Congress.
Of course that assumes they follow the law at all.
Yes, they have two years before midterm and that’s plenty of time
Exactly… Especially since one branch decided one of the other branches doesn’t have to follow the law.
Isn’t it against international law to make someone stateless?
(Granted, it’s not like they’d care about legality)
That’s the fun thing about international law- who’s gonna enforce it?
Noteworthy, Trump’s support from Asian American voters grew 5 points to 39% in 2024.
The AsiansMAGA PAC raised $77,063.89 for Trump, outspending some other Asian American PACs but admittedly not as much as the AAPI.
Not saying they deserve it or anything, but there certainly will be some leopards eating the faces among them.
It’s worth mentioning that there should be some distinction between first and second+ generation immigrants. Often even amongst each other there is division so those who support Trump may not have to worry about being deported.
History has shown that US citizens will get deported.
You are making the mistaken assumption that the brute squad will bother to differentiate between them. How many second+ generation immigrants carry around proof of citizenship, anyway? They can be detained just like anyone else who doesn’t look right.
(And it’s super easy to carry that now, the passport card is cheap, fits in your wallet, and is a good first line of defense against being disappeared.)
Plus his statement changing the law where birth in the US doesn’t grant citizenship.
How long do you think it will be backdated?
Depends on how stupid they are, I could see a scenario where they try to remove the citizenship of everyone from blue states. Mind ypu that would backfire like the demoncore but that doesnt remove the possibility.
Once again. This is because less people voted democratic. Same number over a smaller total is a larger percentage.
Seeing 10M less Democrats vote when the Republican numbers were about the same was the biggest gut check I had. People would rather just not vote, than vote for a half black woman. That was really sad. And don’t anyone dare tell me it was about Gaza, that’s just a load of BS.
Kamala Harris did not lose because she’s not a white man and perpetuating that myth is not helping.
She lost because she didn’t speak to the working class.
She didn’t lay out any plans nor promise any relief to the millions of people struggling.
She said she wouldn’t do anything different than Biden with Palestine.
She parading around a Republican and tried to draw in the non-existent middle voter.
She promised more of the same when “the same” already wasn’t good enough.
Was she the better choice? Absolutely. Did she lose because she’s not a white man? FUCK NO and parroting that bullshit excuse is just distracting from the issues that actually need fixing.
In five elections, Democrats voted in the same numbers for 4 of the 5 candidates and WAY higher for the 5th. I’ll let you figure out the common theme among the first 4 candidates.
As far as your points:
Yes she did.
Neither did Trump.
Trump said he’d do more.
So did Trump.
This is fair.
Circling back: if the difference isn’t that much between her and Biden (per your argument), why did he get SO MANY MORE votes? 69M, 65M, 65M, 81M, 69M. Only one of those 5 numbers is votes for the white man.
She shouldn’t even be relevant. The other guy is literally a “ok, who else is there to vote for because this guy is the worst option” candidate.
I voted for her because I’m not an idiot but yeah…it was sadly an awful campaign.
She also lost because she’s not a man. And she also lost because she’s not white. You’re deluding yourself if you don’t think race and gender had an influence in the election.
If being a woman’s all it takes not to vote for her then how come she lost Michigan which has a woman governor?
Oh, let’s see… maybe because there’s a vast gulf in the perceived power and responsibility between a governor and a president?
Well she did actually, it was all on her website which has sadly been updated or I would show you.
You can still see her Politifact campaign promises page tho LINK
Economy
Ban corporate price gouging on food and groceries
Taxes
Will not raise taxes for those earning less than $400,000 a year
This promise extends another Biden pledge.
Roll back Trump’s tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans
Enact a minimum tax for billionaires
Increase the tax rate on long-term capital gains to 28% for those earning at least $1 million a year
and this is in addition to the fact that the Biden Administration already blocked the Krogers Albertson Merger and had the FTC and DOJ investigate prices and firms across the USA. LINK
She also promised to bring back Child Tax Credits and a new $6,000 child tax credit and also to forgive even more student debts.
If there was any issue with Message it was that the people who bought Washington Post and Twitter weren’t sharing their message.
Yup, uninformed voters are a blight. All the information for BOTH SIDES was out there and available.
I.e. people that could have prevented this but decided they’d rather have their faces eaten.
Yeah, I wonder why undocumented immigrants didn’t vote for Kamala…
Yeah thats fair.
only citizens can vote though? i don’t think any of those people will be deported.
You should look into Operation Wetback 1 and 2, where the US deported a bunch of Mexican immigrants (legal, illegal, documented and undocumented alike) and US citizens to Mexico for “looking too Mexican.”
Citizenship means nothing to racists.
I saw a documentary on that called, “Born In East L.A.”
Man I loved that movie as a kid. I’ve been afraid to go back and watch it as an adult.
Trump in 2020 created a new DOJ office called the Denaturalization Section who would seek out cases and argue to strip citizenship. It is assumed he will start the same process again next year when he reenters office.
But even without that, the roughly 15-20 Million people in the USA which Trump promises to remove because they are undocumented likely have friends and family
You can be stripped of citizenship. https://www.forbes.com/advisor/legal/immigration-law/can-us-citizenship-be-revoked/
Citizens may have non-citizen friends and family who are potential targets.
That anti-blackness the majority of Asian residents like to indulge in is biting them in the ass now.
How likely do y’all think that I as a US Citizen with Chinese ancestry is gonna get deported.
Becausing looking back in history, e.g the Chinese Exclusion Act, it doesn’t give me too much hope.
Welp out of one dicatorship into another 🤷♂️
Oh the situation is even more messed up considering the fact that in Chinese law, citizenship is automatically revoked when you obtain foreign citizenship. Guess I could end up stateless, in a CCP dictatorship.
Fuck this world.
My bff and her brother were born here, but I’m extremely worried for them. A couple years ago DARPA approached her brother for the work he did on drone technology in college. I know her parents cut ties with their families in China when they moved here several decades ago, but that doesn’t seem like enough to keep them from being harassed at minimum.
Depends on how Americanized you are and how racist your area is.
I was curious so when I was in high school I once asked my classmates if they hear an accent when I speak, they said they don’t hear an accent. I guess I pass? 🤷♂️
I’m in Philly, it should be fine. (I hope)
Would probably be helpful to have a passport to demonstrate citizenship.
Make sure you have your birth certificate with you.
I got citizenship derived from my mom’s naturalization while I was under 18. I’m gonna make copies of the document and photo backups just in case. But I’m afraid this orange dickhead is gonna attempt mass-denaturalization by making up bogus “CCP Spy” accusations.
When they come around, tell them you hate LGBTQ people, Black people, etc. That may protect you short-term.
I’m in Philly.
Governor is Dem
PA House is Dem by 1 seat majority
Deep blue city
I hope I’m fine.
I’m not gonna cosplay a maga just to avoid getting raided by ICE
I’m gonna pretend to be apolitical.
If I’m ever pressured to reveal who I voted for (as in under duress) I’m gonna claim I voted third party because I was undecided. (I voted Harris, but who is gonna know lol, fourty-something percent of Asians Americans reportedly voted trump IIRC).
Forty percent of asian Americans who voted.
You have derivative citizenship? I mean, you’ll probably be fine, but you’re in a riskier category than a natural-born citizen of natural-born-citizen parents. The country is crazy right now. Likely most or all the worst-case scenarios won’t occur. But you’re slightly more exposed than others. That being said, if they’re coming for you, things will have become so fucked in the US and world more generally that it wouldn’t really matter where you are.
My concern is that they’ll further weaken the already pathetic judicial process for deportation (justifying it by saying it speeds up the process “and we have so many cases to get through”) and citizens who get swept up by the machine won’t have a chance to prove their citizenship. Because when the REAL goal is oppression and elimination of a minority group, “accidentally” deporting a few hundred citizens is a feature not a bug.
If it gets that bad, your only hope is to have your documents on you at all times and hope that you’re lucky enough for the boots on the ground to walk past you because of it.
“undocumented”
Well, I mean, if they’re undocumented they’re already just one bad luck away from getting deported, the question is, how does he plan to catch them if they’re not getting caught already?
“Papers, please”
They’re hitting the detain button immediately.
During the 1930s when there was a mass Mexican deportation, there were a lot of US citizens rounded up and deported. Don’t trust these guys will not make the same mistake. Of course, a decade later, Mexicans streamed across the border to mind farms and ranches while US manpower was in WWII. They kinda helped win the war by keeping the nation and it’s troops fed.
They did it a second time, too.
potential risk to national security
Pot, meet kettle.
Pot, meet industrial boiler.
FTFY
What a convenient pretext to round up Beijing’s wishlist of exiles.
Orange Man baths in social credits.
“It’s not the Greeks, it’s the Chinese he’s after”
